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1 posted on 08/29/2007 5:50:30 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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I would say, “discussions like this,” because the speaker is relating other “discussions” to the ONE discussion currently taking place.

My daughter dreamed last night that she was practicing her three-point turns in the Methodist Church parking lot, with Pope Pius XII in the passenger seat.


2 posted on 08/29/2007 5:54:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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In this case, Mrs. Peel, I believe "discussions" is in the plural, and therefore "these" is appropriate.

Punctuation might be a fraction off, however, and I think the sentence might be read thus:

"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

3 posted on 08/29/2007 5:54:48 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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Oh, and a comma between “said” and “wielding.”


4 posted on 08/29/2007 5:55:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Gravity! It's not just a good idea, it's the law!)
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***”I so enjoy discussions like these”, she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.***

Not a grammer police by any means, but I would correct it like this:

“I so enjoy discussions like this,” she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

Note punctuation changes.


6 posted on 08/29/2007 5:56:10 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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ax is preferred to axe (nobody said that one)


9 posted on 08/29/2007 5:59:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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How many items on the agenda. If there was more than one about which you had a negative attitude, “these” would be correct. If just one, “this” would be correct.


12 posted on 08/29/2007 6:00:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

Maybe you should see a doctor about your possible(subconscious) homicidal tendency's, grammar be damned. ;)

16 posted on 08/29/2007 6:02:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Hmmmmmm...usually I’m on duty as the grammar/spelling police but that one is a little tricky. Nonetheless I’d say “discussions like this” since the discussion she is referring to is just one discussion.

Just my guess...there’s a reason I didn’t take AP English!


19 posted on 08/29/2007 6:03:01 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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Dunno, but you are in good company.

21 posted on 08/29/2007 6:05:07 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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I think it depends on whether you are currently hearing multiple discussions. If there is more than one discussion taking place during your meeting, then the current discussions to which you refer is what is implied. However if the current meeting only includes one discussion, then the implied object is singular.

My two cents.


29 posted on 08/29/2007 6:09:21 PM PDT by Equality 7-2521 ("Ron Paul, the only rational Republican" --BadEye)
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Word of caution to the grammar police: she has a bloody axe in her hand.


33 posted on 08/29/2007 6:12:45 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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I’m not as concerned with the grammar as I am with the meetings you’re going to and what you consider “boring.” Do you have your company picnics at Camp Crystal Lake?


34 posted on 08/29/2007 6:13:24 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Fishin' for a good time starts with throwin' in your line.)
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“I mean, isn’t discussions a collective and therefore implies a singular?”

According to The Elements of Grammar, by Margaret Shertzer, collective nouns as subjects “may be regarded as singular or plural: singular, if the word denotes a group acting as an individual; plural, if the word denotes the individuals that make up the group.”

I vote for these...


39 posted on 08/29/2007 6:17:59 PM PDT by gate2wire
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“I so enjoy discussions like these”, she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

I think it should be:

“I so enjoy discussions like this (discussion)” she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.


41 posted on 08/29/2007 6:19:44 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

OK, if you want to get really picky:

1. In some strict grammar circles, the word "like" should be replaced with "such as." However, in modern usage, it is generally accepted as an alternative to "such as." A sentence such as It's great to have a friend like John would look strange to most people if "such as" were used instead.

2. Replace "these" with "this."

3. The comma after "this" needs to go inside the last quotation mark, not outside it.

4. A comma is needed after "said."

Corrected version:

"I so enjoy discussion such as [or like] this," she said, wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

That's it, I think.

But enough grammar drivel. I think that the main question is: What possessed you to randomly doodle that sentence?!?

(Yes, the ?!? is bad punctuation...sue me. :)
48 posted on 08/29/2007 6:34:33 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger
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I am the worst at writing, punctuation skills, et al..

I really could give a crap!!!!

Some just need to pull their undies out of their tight a$$ cracks.............

IMO

56 posted on 08/29/2007 7:19:46 PM PDT by Shyla
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I am longing for instruction.

This is the kind of statement that makes grammar Nazis tingle.

61 posted on 08/29/2007 7:55:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Only if there are several bloody corpses of socialist democrats before you, as you ponder the grammar, are you correct. If only one bloody corpse, then the singular would have been more appropriate.


62 posted on 08/29/2007 7:59:12 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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"I so enjoy discussions like these", she said wielding a bloody axe in her hand.

The style book I consulted made a distinction between "this kind" and "these kinds."

If we reworded your sentence, it could be "these kinds of discussions" or "this kind of discussion." So it's clear that you've at least written in the appropriate sense (these discussions).

Whether you used it properly with regard to meaning is yet to be discovered.

It's somewhat context-sensitive. If your fictional(?) woman is rendered homicidal by particular discussion, you'd want to use "a discussion like this."

If, however, she were a situational murderer who was set off by examples of a general class of discussion, then I think "discussions like these" would be appropriate.

Alternatively, she may be set off by a repetition of the same discussion -- in which case "discussions like this (one)" would be fine.

So, really, it depends on you. Are you generally homicidal, or not?

63 posted on 08/29/2007 8:08:07 PM PDT by r9etb
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Mrs. Peel, sweep your comma inside your quotes and enjoy your sentence; it's yummy as is.

Is the meeting one discussion? Or is it rather a tide of voices ebbing and flowing, discussions like wave caps.

Is it the first meeting of these people, or yet another in a series, in which case these discussions is apt.

I enjoy discussions like these sounds smooth.

RoboCop2 would say, "I enjoy discussions like these, wielding my minigun against simpering castrati."


69 posted on 08/29/2007 9:14:01 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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