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Mozilla gets serious about e-mail
Cnet.com ^ | September 18, 2007 5:39 AM PDT | Matt Asay

Posted on 09/18/2007 11:02:29 AM PDT by N3WBI3

This is very good news. We've long needed real competition in the e-mail market, given how much time people spend in e-mail. Now the organization that gave us competition in the browser market has decided to get serious about e-mail. This is a Very Good Thing.

Mozilla (on Monday) announced a new initiative to stimulate innovation in Internet mail and communications. Mozilla plans to develop Internet communications software based on the Thunderbird product, code and brand. The new initiative also aims to nurture a robust developer ecosystem in order to drive improvements through open source and community innovation, in the tradition of the Firefox web browser.

Why is this such a good thing? Let me count the ways...

Currently, the company that owns most of the world's mailboxes--Microsoft-- has done little to nothing to improve the e-mail experience. E-mail today is essentially the same as it was 10 years ago. This is almost criminal, given how much time we spend in it.

A good friend with access to Microsoft's Exchange team suggested a reason for this, which came from Microsoft: the Exchange code is so old and so crumbly that Microsoft doesn't dare to fiddle with it. Yes, it would make perfect sense to centralize collaboration and social networking in the address book/e-mail client, but Microsoft apparently can't do this without risking the stability of its omnipresent e-mail client and server.

And so the world suffers because of early design decisions.

Enter Mozilla. Mozilla has an excellent track record of taking Microsoft head-on, and winning (or, at least, competing vigorously). Firefox has, almost overnight, become the default browser for a huge swath of the market. I'm confident that Mozilla can, once again, check Microsoft's lethargic lumber with a solid core upon which a vibrant community can build the e-mail system that we need.

How the team will develop the system is still up in the air, as Mozilla Chief Executive Mitchell Baker writes:

Mozilla will provide an initial $3 million in seed funding to launch MailCo. This is expected to be spent mostly on building a small team of people who are passionate about e-mail and Internet communications. As MailCo develops it and the Mozilla Foundation will evaluate what's the best model for long-term sustainability. Mozilla may well invest additional funds; we also hope that there are other paths for sustainability.

This is a good way to approach the problem. I especially like the fact that David Ascher of ActiveState will be taking over the reins of the new organization. David is a credible, strong community figure who should be able to pull this off.

To be truly disruptive I believe that Mozilla (or, rather, MailCo) will need to focus on both the e-mail server and client. It would be truly incredible if Mozilla could collaborate with Yahoo! on this, fresh off its acquisition of Zimbra. A server that married Zimbra's flexibility and "soft client" (browser-based e-mail client), with Thunderbird's "fat client" (for those of us who don't like web-based e-mail) would be a clear winner. I don't think it will happen, but it would be impressive...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: mozilla; opensource; thundirbird

1 posted on 09/18/2007 11:02:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; amigatec; Fractal Trader; ..

OSS Ping


2 posted on 09/18/2007 11:03:13 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3

I could never get Thunderbird to work like AOHELL when it came to e-mail.


3 posted on 09/18/2007 11:06:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: N3WBI3
Eudora ?

4 posted on 09/18/2007 11:19:37 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Pine?


5 posted on 09/18/2007 11:21:39 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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Pine?

LOL! Yeah.

Seriously, if the FOSS community can tackle three more big M$ targets, the war will be won.

Exchange/Outlook, Access and VBA are really important in the business world. OOo covers Office quite well, on the surface. But nobody has an Access-compatible DB yet. And nobody has a VBA-compatible scripting engine to automate OOo.

If the day comes that there are FOSS alternatives to those three M$ products, M$ will be facing the end of the line, IMO.

6 posted on 09/18/2007 11:30:07 AM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: N3WBI3

Until a Mozilla mail client can hotsync and activesync to and from blackberrys, palm and windows mobile phones, (and Blackberry enterprise server!) without having to do manual (or macroe’d) conversions into and out of outlook and outlook .pst files, Mozilla can’t take on Microsoft head on. Yes there is software available to do this, but it costs money and is really really slow.


7 posted on 09/18/2007 11:32:19 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: N3WBI3
Currently, the company that owns most of the world's mailboxes--Microsoft-- has done little to nothing to improve the e-mail experience. E-mail today is essentially the same as it was 10 years ago. This is almost criminal, given how much time we spend in it.

Uh, I see no reason to "improve my e-mail experience." As long as it gets to the intended recipients quickly and reliably, it seems to me the quality of the "experience" is dependent on the sender's content, not the delivery software. Just as all I demand from a browser is to load & display pages correctly, not to enhance my web-surfing "experience."

Similarly, Thunderbird is fine as it is.

8 posted on 09/18/2007 11:40:00 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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To: N3WBI3

“Currently, the company that owns most of the world’s mailboxes—Microsoft— has done little to nothing to improve the e-mail experience. E-mail today is essentially the same as it was 10 years ago. This is almost criminal, given how much time we spend in it.”

“Currently, the company that owns most of the world’s mailboxes—Microsoft— has done little to nothing to improve the e-mail experience. E-mail today is essentially the same as it was 10 years ago. This is almost criminal, given how much time we spend in it.”

Microsoft waits. They let Mozilla do all the innovation and creation. Then within a few months they copy everything.


9 posted on 09/18/2007 4:43:54 PM PDT by Revel
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To: TChris
MySQL is very close to being ready for primetime. As a matter of fact, I can see MySQL making inroads in the db market before I can see any other OSS mail server/client chipping away at Outlook/Exchange. MySQL isn't there yet, but it's chugging away, and I can see it being a real market force in a year or two.
10 posted on 09/18/2007 4:47:05 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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“If the day comes that there are FOSS alternatives to those three M$ products, M$ will be facing the end of the line, IMO.”

Oh brother.

FOSS people seriously live on a whole different planet. The vast majority of people use web based email. Most others use the more established email programs like Exchange/Outlook because they work. The only people that seem to hate it are people that put $ in MS.

And why do people do that anyway? Is their some sort of problem with Microsoft making money? Do other companies do it for charity?

what am I missing here?


11 posted on 09/18/2007 4:59:09 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: N3WBI3

I generally like Thunderbird, but I have to admit, Outlook Express beats the hell out of it for inline attachments and graphics handling, not to mention things like embedded tables.

Apple’s Mail app is even better.


12 posted on 09/18/2007 7:47:59 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: N3WBI3

I use Thunderbird at home. I hope they don’t decide to change the name yet again!


13 posted on 09/19/2007 7:54:56 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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