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GM takes aim at Toyota Camry and Honda Accord with new Malibu
IHT ^ | September 27, 2007 | Nick Bunkley

Posted on 09/28/2007 6:17:37 AM PDT by vietvet67

DETROIT: General Motors solved one problem this week by reaching a deal with the United Automobile Workers. Now it hopes its new Chevrolet Malibu will help solve another - winning sales and market share back from its Japanese rivals.

For years, family sedans have been a lower priority for GM and the other Detroit automakers. They focused instead on big trucks and sport utility vehicles, which earned tidy profits, while letting Toyota and Honda dominate the less-lucrative market for cars.

But the best days for those big vehicles have passed, and GM is eager to break the Asian stranglehold on midsize sedans, with a redesigned Chevrolet Malibu set to go on sale Nov. 2 that it views as its most important vehicle in years.

The company is spending $100 million to introduce the new "Bu," as executives call it, significantly more than it has for any other car in recent memory. It has to invest heavily, experts say, in order to make a dent in the market led by the Toyota Camry, the country's best-selling car for the past seven years, and the Honda Accord.

"It's tough to get the broad American public to reconsider an American car in that price class," the vice chairman of GM, Robert Lutz, said at an industry conference in northern Michigan last month. "The Camry and the Accord have established, and justifiably so, such strong brand value, which means that you've got to have a really outstanding car."

While the Malibu may be improved, so is its competition. This month, Honda began selling a redesigned Accord sedan that is bigger, more powerful and more luxurious than previous versions. The Camry and Nissan Altima were also overhauled last year.

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To: Leo Farnsworth

Not if my past experience is any guide. This one should hold up quite a long time without any need for repairs. Japanese electrics and engine controls, not Lucas or Ford.


121 posted on 09/28/2007 7:41:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Two words on GM Design... Pontiac Aztek.

:)


122 posted on 09/28/2007 7:42:23 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Yardstick
for $4k,

87 300E. 4K. Bought 3 years ago with 115K, added 120K, no problem. Tires, Brakes, leaks a little oil.

There ain't no car worth over $1500. My Grandfather. Born 1867, Studebaker man.

123 posted on 09/28/2007 7:43:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Teddy K's 'Immigration Reform Act' of 1965. ¡Grácias, Borracho!)
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To: Slapshot68
Given the GTO flop,

I don't know about mechanically but the GTO looks more like a Mitsubishi than the 67 GTO I dreamed of having as a teenager.

124 posted on 09/28/2007 7:46:38 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: McGruff
Went over to my favorite Car website Edmund’s for a little more info.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNav/year=2008/make=Chevrolet/model=Malibu/firstNav=Gallery

Their forums are like the FR of cars.

125 posted on 09/28/2007 7:57:04 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney I guess Fred will have to do.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Why besmirch all Japanese car owners as being blind. I could make the same argument for your point of view:

GM-Ford-Chrysler car owners are so blindly loyal that they would buy a car where most of it is not made in the US, the quality level is sub par compared to Japanese models, and after purchase service ranks near the bottom. They love wasting their money due to their blind faith.

My point is some people make a choice in a vehicle that might not agree with yours. In my case, I bought an American car - a 2004 Toyota Sequoia - Made in the US.


126 posted on 09/28/2007 7:57:47 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: flintsilver7
The Camry is homely? Wow, what do you think is stylish?

Homely? Hell, it's hideous. It's piggish.

What is stylish? The 2002 and 2003 Nissan Maxima was stylish, and the new Altimas aren't bad either. BMW is and continues to be a stylish, if expensive and unreliable, automobile. The retro-style Mustang is pretty sharp, and the C6 Corvette might be the best in style of every Corvette generation. Hell, I even think Chevy and GMC pickup trucks aren't bad looking. But the Camry is an ugly duckling.
127 posted on 09/28/2007 8:05:44 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: SoCal Pubbie
In fairness to Toyota, any car designed to be the best selling model in America cannot afford to take any risks. However, I would never nominate the very vanilla Camry as anything approaching a prime example of automotive design. The Altima, on the other hand, has been very well designed for a while now, lest anyone accuse me of bias against the Japanese.

I've always been a fan of Nissan's products. The Altima and the Maxima are both great sedans, and the 300ZX Twin Turbo was an awesome sports car back in its day. I wish I could find one in good shape.
128 posted on 09/28/2007 8:13:06 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Spktyr
Who sourced the electrics on the 95 XJR - Mazda? I’m somewhat familiar with this era Jaguar, primarily through friends in the local British car club. And I rented a later-model for a week for my honeymoon in 2002. However, ... the supercharger is a potential problem area - it should be serviced frequently. Also, there were some common electrical glitches (fuel gauge, oil light, rear window brake light), but I agree it’s nothing like the Lucas-era meltdowns.

I love the XJ/XJR exterior styling and the R’s power. But, the handling is a bit too ponderous for me, the interior feels cramped (and I’m not a very big/tall guy), and the instrument layout is awkward to say the least. Good luck with it, and report back in a couple of years!

129 posted on 09/28/2007 8:21:08 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: stratboy

No, a US assembled foreign company’s product is not American. It’s simply a great rationalization to take make owners feel good. It provides that foreign company ways of dodging import quotas and expenses and remove some of the guilt of buying them.

An American car is built by and American company and supports an infrastructure of US jobs and then contributes to the US economy. It’s not just providing a few assembly jobs.

Here’s a good article summing up my feelings: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Commentary/At_Witz_End_Whats_an_American_Car.S192.A11981.html?pg=1

The problem that I have found with GM vehicles, from a GM perspective, is that they just plain last too long. I run most of mine over 200,000 miles (276,000 currently on one). Get a good solid GM V8 and change the oil every 3,000 miles and they will run a long, long time.


130 posted on 09/28/2007 8:33:55 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Kenny Bunk

The older German cars are great. They have such a presence about them.

1500 bucks can buy a lot of car if you’re patient. That’s what I paid for my last car, an 84 Toyota Supra, which has been incredibly reliable (and also a ton of fun — inline 6, rear wheel drive, 5 speed).


131 posted on 09/28/2007 9:58:06 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: JamesP81

Piggish? What, are you in junior high? Yes, the best-selling car in America is “piggish.” That must be it. I’m sure the people that buy it do so in spite of the design and not at all because of it. Yep, that must be it.

Look, simply because the car does not appeal to you does not make it ugly. It means you’re probably not the target audience. Praise your car all you want, but it doesn’t say anything for your vehicle of choice if all you have to say is some other car is “piggish.”


132 posted on 09/28/2007 10:41:48 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7
Good points, however, may I point out that most people here who favor the Camry do so for reasons of utility, and not beauty. Furthermore, I never said my opinion was the end of the subject.
133 posted on 09/28/2007 10:56:49 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: flintsilver7
Let me also add that if numbers are the standard, then painting of dogs playing poker and Elvis on black velvet might be superior to the Mona Lisa.
134 posted on 09/28/2007 10:58:46 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: stratboy

My ‘87 Caprice has the 4.3L V-6.


135 posted on 09/28/2007 11:01:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (25 degrees today. Phase state change accomplished.)
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To: riverdawg

Actually Jaguar went straight to Nippon-Denso for almost all of it. Strange, but there you go.

As for the blower, all superchargers in all cars are more maintenance intensive; just the nature of superchargers.

My other one is an 87 XJ6 which I love dearly. :)


136 posted on 09/28/2007 11:02:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: vietvet67

Oooh, Toyota and Honda are really scared now......


137 posted on 09/28/2007 11:03:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Slapshot68

Two back at you:

Yaris Verso

Google it.


138 posted on 09/28/2007 11:05:26 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: flintsilver7
Notice the prominent bulge in the hood running down to the emblem on the grill, giving it a porcine look:
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Sorry, it's reminescent of a pig's snout. That's not my fault, it's simply the logical consequence of the design. If that doesn't bother you, then more power to you. But it is what it is.
139 posted on 09/28/2007 11:20:07 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Two back at you:

Yaris Verso


I'll add another: xB
140 posted on 09/28/2007 11:21:34 AM PDT by JamesP81
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