Posted on 10/09/2007 10:30:48 AM PDT by JSDude1
But hey, if a little known college professor can intergrate 3 countries and change the course of human history, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!
Only an idiot/lunatic/liar like Corsi could possibly confuse Latin America with the Northern Hemisphere. But hey, twisting words and phrases until it is devoid of its original meaning is par for the course for the socialist left. Since it works so well, why shouldn't we adopt it?
Not to mention that a currency reintegration plan of Lat. Am. would require the full cooperation of every Lat. country in the Central and Southern Hemisphere (maybe save for Brazil), each with its own fun little problems like communist trolls, rampant crime, corruption, poor economy, and terrorist scumbags. It is a given that in the event of an integration, some of Lat. Am. scummier elements will lose out so resistance to this shift will be strong. Considering all of this, the odds of this "Latin Amero" being implemented within our lifetimes is about Slim to None, and good old Slim is thinking about hitchin' a ride out of town.
Now multiply these headaches with the US and Canadian dollar and the Mexican peso. Lat. Am. currency integration is 1000% more likely than a US/Mex/Can currency integration yet the chance of that happening soon is still very, very, VERY low.
As to the NAU conspiracy: newsflash, the Department of Justice and Defense couldn't even keep the SWIFT Program secret without the NYSlimes blabbing its big mouth about it. Like a wise man once said, "Three men can keep a secret if two are dead."
I know you think 9/11 conspiracies are a load of bunk. Well that's good. Because they are. This excellent article reveals the kind of ridiculous lack of common sense and insane paranoia/idiocy required to believe in something as asinine as the government plotting 9/11.
WARNING: High doses of language and common sense
See how ridiculous it is? A conspiracy like this wouldn't merely involve the executive branch. It would easily involve entire state governments and their various agencies ESPECIALLY those who lost the most in the attacks (NYPD, FDNY, DOD, etc). It is unthinkable that anyone can believe that the President is willing or even capable of pulling something of this magnitude. "Oh those stupid lefties and their conspiracies", right?
Well, here's the rub. Instead of making it a terrorist attack, let's make it, say, a conspiracy to integrate three nations under a socialist system. And because this conspiracy is going to involve three countries, let's expand the scope of those "in the know".
This would include, oh I dunno, the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA, USA, AND MEXICO, ALL THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND MILITARY FORCES, EVERY STATE AND REGION THAT HAS THESE ROAD PROJECTS OR SIMILAR "NAU" PLANS BEING IMPLEMENTED, ALL THOSE REGIONAL/STATE AGENCIES, AND NO LESS THAN 75% OF MAJOR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, NGOS, AND THINK TANKS!!!!!!
We are not talking about a government conspiracy, or even a national conspiracy. We are talking about an international conspiracy, between three sovereign nations, which will have global ramifications. The scope of such a conspiracy would be the largest conspiracy in human history. We are talking about an entity that would have millions on its payroll, those same millions that are privy to its darkest secrets, and those same millions who wants to be the next Thomas Paine or Valerie Plame.
The scope of a 9/11 cover-up is humongous. The scope of an NAU cover-up is unimaginable. Do you truly believe an organization of millions with disparate ideals and agendas can truly cooperate long enough to keep this a secret and not have some whistleblower ruin it for everyone? The President barely has control of his own freaking CIA!!!! How could Messrs. Calderon/Fox, Harper/Chretien, and Bush POSSIBLY keep the lid on something this ASTRONOMICAL!?!?!
Long story short, as bad as the left's 9/11 conspiracies are, our little NAU delusion is A LOT WORSE. And I'm not just talking in terms of sheer improbability and stupidity. Crap like this undermines the one party that has a fighting chance of defeating the enemy within and distracts conservatives from the real issues. So while FReepers and other conservatives wring their hands and obsess about "Jorge" expanding some roads for the Chinese and Mexican army armed with big wads of Ameros, the socialists within our countries are making very real and very damaging moves against this nation and her people.
There is no NAU. You would have heard of it by now and not from Corsi or some guy with a blog. It would be all over the evening news. Corsi would be a blip on the radar as hundreds of whistleblowers come forward with their exposes of the dreaded NAU. They will be regarded as heroes and have riches and fame heaped upon them. They will be the darlings of the left (yep some of them have drunk from the same kool-aid, but come one, if they believe that Pres. Bush orchestrated 9/11, the NAU would be a cinch right?), the right, and the moderates. (Most of the left think an NAU would simply position America as leader of the Union while giving America greater power and resources.)
Nobody wants it, nobody is interested, and nobody is planning it. THERE. IS. NO. NAU. Now wipe the foam of your mouth before you scare the children away.
Because I am an RNC operative, and a socialist, and an Illuminati cult member, and a lizard man. Oooga booga.
“You cannot be that naive or that blind?! And more importantly, you simple cannot believe that the illogical argument you have posted is going to somehow convince anyone.”
See Post 102
“Why would an ex-President of a sovereign country make up something like this?”
Again see 102. IT’s easy to create a nefarious conspiracy when the theorists twist the meanings and intentions of others.
True, the lady whose email was read by King asked about a currency for FTAA which currently consists of Latin American countries. However Fox made it clear in his answer the he and Bush also agreed that the USA should eventually become a part of FTAA also. If all of FTAA has a single currency, and the US is a part of it, by definition we would adopt that currency.
As for your line that they couldn't keep it a secret, you are right. And they aren't even trying to, they are announcing it to anyone who will listen. They being any number of influential elites around the world who view nations as anachronisms, and look forward to a world without borders. They are working to do everything they can to achieve that, and they don't need to enlist "an organization of millions with disparate ideals and agendas...to keep this a secret". After all, when they announce their intentions publicly they can count on people like you calling those who take them at their word about their "very long term" plans paranoid nutters. But frankly, if anyone seems to be frothing at the mouth here, it's you, not me.
Nope. If Turkey is accepted into the EU, that doesn’t mean it will use the EURO. There is no reason for Turkey to use European currency just because it joined political agreement. The likelihood of Canada and the US adopting a LAtin Amercican currency is lsim to none. The economic power of these two nations individually is much stronger than the Latin American sphere combined.
My point still stands. There is no one major yelling and screaming about this. Idiot/nutjob/liar Corsi and his kooky friends from the Moonbat wing of conservatism doesnt count; what they don’t know about this nation, the world, and how it works could fill 5 encyclopedic volumes. No major government official, no diplomat, no one. All they have is a website and a couple of papers. That’s it? Where are the people yelling on PrimeTime TV, broadcasted live from D.C./Mexico City/Toronto decrying/supporting the coming merger? All we have are hacks, kooks, and those seeking the easy way to riches and fame. This is bigger than Watergate yet no “Night Vision Hilton” has come out to blow this conspiracy wide open.
And forget keeping it secret. How about implementation? The war on Iraq and Immigration reform proves that the so called “NAU Leaders” don’t have carte-blanche to implement anything of this magnitude. This is ten times bigger than these two issues combined. Both sides of the aisle have already actively sabotaged the Pres. on this issue. What makes you think no bureaucrat or politician isn’t going to throw a monkey wrench in the NAU machine? You think all of those millions will just meekly let the NAU come to fruition? Without protesting it at all? Human nature says no.
As to the foaming, I’m not the one accusing world leaders of treason or calling people who rightfully dismiss it for the BS it is “traitors” and “sheep”. I’m not the one who can believe that an organization over a million strong can keep all its members in line in the largest conspiracy in human history. I’m not the one translating policy minituae into the overencompassing thing that will destroy football, mom, and apple pie.
I’m not foaming. For now. You keep pushing this BS, slandering perfectly good men, keeping the movement as a whole from focusing on the real issues, moving us to our defeat and marginalization, leading the nation to ruin...
...then you’ll see some real foaming.
I do not have the time nor inclination for BS and paranoid wet dreams when there are very very real evil within this country plotting our demise. And none of them are in the White House.
Well, at least until Jan. 2009.
Corsi liedVicente Fox did not say what Corsi claimed he said. Corsi's Oct. 9 WorldNetDaily article attacking President George W. Bush begins like this:
But it is all lies. Vicente Fox actually said nothing whatsoever suggesting that President Bush ever expressed support for "merger," or combining the dollar with any other currency, or replacing it with an "amero." Not a word. Here's a letter that I wrote to WorldNetDaily President Joseph Farah, detailing the lies in Corsi's article. I also faxed a similar letter. I've not yet received a reply. Criticizing a Corsi article is like shooting at a moving target. When confronted with particularly obvious misstatements in one of his articles, Corsi does not admit them, as an honest man would. Instead, he tries to hide the fact that the flaws were ever there, by editing his article on the WorldNetDaily web site, without any indication that he has done so. This is the earliest version I have of his article: Here's a later version, which he artfully edited to obscure some of the more obvious misstatements (but the thesis is still a lie): This is the current version, on the WorldNetDaily web site (perhaps the same as the "later version," above): This is CNN's transcript of Larry King's interview of Vicente Fox: Here's the relevant part of that transcript, not sliced and diced into pieces to change the meaning, as Corsi did, but with the entire section intact: KING: E-mail from Mrs. Gonzalez in Elizabeth, New Jersey. "Mr. Fox, I would like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency?" FOX: Long term, very long term. What we propose together, President Bush and myself, it's ALCA, which is a trade union for all of the Americas. And everything was running fluently until Hugo Chavez came. He decided to isolate himself. He decided to combat the idea and destroy the idea... KING: It's going to be like the euro dollar, you mean? FOX: Well, that would be long, long term. I think the processes to go, first step into is trading agreement. And then further on, a new vision, like we are trying to do with NAFTA. KING: How is NAFTA doing? FOX: Excellent. Mexico's seventh largest trading economy in the world. Mexico trades more products and services than all of Latin America together, including Brazil, Argentina and all of them. And Mexico buys -- and this people don't know -- Mexico buys from the United States more products and services than what Italy, France, Germany and Britain do together. So we account for hundreds of thousands of jobs in this economy in the U.S. KING: An honor seeing you again. We'll make the next visit not so long. FOX: Thank you very much... As you can see, Fox did not say anything resembling what Corsi claims he said. Fox never suggested that Bush supports unifying the American dollar with any other currencies, or replacing it with a new currency. Let's look at the transcript line-by-line, and compare what it says to what Corsi claimed: KING: E-mail from Mrs. Gonzalez in Elizabeth, New Jersey. "Mr. Fox, I would like to know how you feel about the possibility of having a Latin America united with one currency?" Note that the question asked of Fox was what would he think of a common currency for Latin America. But here's what Corsi wrote:
Surely Corsi knows that the USA is not part of Latin America! Nowhere in their conversation did either Fox or King say anything about a common North American currency. So why did Corsi change "Latin America" to the USA, Canada and Mexico? Because a common currency for Latin America would be inconsistent with the Bircher "Amero" / "North American Union" hoax, which is an imagined secret plan to merge Canada, Mexico and the USA. The two ideas are incompatible: Latin America is Mexico and points south. North America is Mexico and points north. Mexico is in both Latin America and North America, but the USA and Canada are not part of Latin America. This was Fox's reply to Larry King's question, and King's interruption: FOX: Long term, very long term. What we propose together, President Bush and myself, it's ALCA, which is a trade union for all of the Americas. And everything was running fluently until Hugo Chavez came. He decided to isolate himself. He decided to combat the idea and destroy the idea... KING: It's going to be like the euro dollar, you mean? As you can see, Fox replied that there's no common currency in prospect for Latin America for a long, long time to come. Note that he neatly avoided answering the question he was asked, which was what he thinks of the idea of a common currency for Latin America. Fox's English isn't very good, but he is an experienced politician, who knows how to dodge a question! Then he changed the subject, to talk about something less pie-in-the-sky: trade reform (one of his favorite topics). That could have been accomplished, he said, if Chavez hadn't thrown a monkey wrench in the works. But look what Corsi said about it:
Corsi managed to cram three lies into just one partial sentence!
KING: It's going to be like the euro dollar, you mean? But it was no use. Fox is a skilled dodger: FOX: Well, that would be long, long term. I think the processes to go, first step into is trading agreement. And then further on, a new vision, like we are trying to do with NAFTA. As you can see, Fox again avoided saying what he thought of the idea of a common currency for Latin America, and just repeated his opinion that a common currency for Latin America couldn't happen for a long, long time. Then he again changed the subject to trade. What Latin America really needs, he said, is a trade agreement (which, as he'd just mentioned, Chavez is blocking). Then, he said, they need to work on finding a "new vision" in the region, which was an apparent reference to the need for much greater frendliness and cooperation between the Latin American countries than is possible with scoundrels like Hugo Chavez in power. Then Fox turned the conversation to NAFTA, which, he said, is part of an attempt to find a new vision of cooperation in North America. This time King gave in to Fox's change of topic: KING: How is NAFTA doing? FOX: Excellent. Mexico's seventh largest trading economy in the world. Mexico trades more products and services than all of Latin America together, including Brazil, Argentina and all of them. And Mexico buys -- and this people don't know -- Mexico buys from the United States more products and services than what Italy, France, Germany and Britain do together. So we account for hundreds of thousands of jobs in this economy in the U.S. That's what Fox actually said. But look at what Corsi wrote:
That's a complete fabrication. Fox said nothing at all about any plan to create an amero-type currency, and nothing at all about doing so for NAFTA, either. NAFTA, said Fox, is doing "excellent," increasing trade and creating jobs in both the USA and Mexico. He never suggested that there was any plan or need for a common currency. Corsi just made that up. Corsi also wrote:
But Fox said nothing at all like that. Corsi just made it up. It is a total fabrication. So are Corsi's headlines:
Corsi wrote three headlines, with not one word of truth in any of them! Contrary to Corsi's headlines, Vicente Fox said nothing suggesting that President Bush entered into any secret "long-term deal," or that he ever expressed support for "merger," or for the mythical "amero," or for combining the dollar with any other currency. Corsi's headlines, like his article, are just a series of lies. Corsi is a dishonest journalist, who discredits the WorldNetDaily news service. Joseph Farah should fire him, and apologize to his readers. |
“Vicente Fox did not say what Corsi claimed he said.”
Well I feel so much better now!LMAO
Let us all know when you move to CA.
I’ve got a stretch of land on the border that we’ll let you guard. And if you happen to catch TB from some illegal alien on the flight out here...well maybe your buddy Vicente Fox can make funeral arrangements for ya...
Meanwhile those of us who are adults around here will continue the fight against illegal aliens and illegal drugs coming across the Mexican border, continue pressing our government to secure both borders and continue fighting muslim terrorism.
PS Your buddy Vicente Fox has a book out that he is hawking that he’d sure like you to buy while he’s “dissing” America! Seems the Lefties and corrupt politicians on both sides of the Mexican border don’t mind criticizing America as long as they can continue to profit from Americans and the freedoms that America affords!
Class Dismissed!
Huh? I said nothing about illegal immigration, TB, drugs, or Muslim terrorism, and Vicente Fox is certainly not my buddy.
What I said was that Jerome Corsi lied.
Corsi CLAIMED that “Fox... admitt[ed] he and President Bush had agreed... [to a plan] to institute a regional currency from Canada to the tip of South America.”
But there’s nothing remotely resembling that in the CNN transcript of Fox’s remarks. Corsi just made it up. Do you acknowledge that?
Larry King asked Vicente Fox how he felt about the idea of creating a common currency for Latin America, not for North America. The “N” in Corsi’s imaginary “North American Union” stands for “North,” not “Latin.”
Do you believe that Larry King actually meant “the USA and Canada” when he said “Latin America.” Of course not. Do you think that Fox believed Larry King meant that? Of course not.
Well, guess what? Neither does Corsi. He knows better than that. He just lied.
-Dave
We’re over here at war fighting for our lives, livelihood & America's sovereignty while you’re in NC playing on your pc worried about what some has-been Mexican politician may or may not have said!
I’m not worrying about Fox. I’m worried about the truth, and about the defamation of good people, like President Bush and Gov. Perry, with lies.
That’s what MoveOn and MediaMatters do: they smear good Christian conservatives and Republicans with lies. Corsi is no different.
I called Bush and Perry “good people.” That’s my considered opinion. You and Corsi you apparently disagree, as is your right.
There’s is nothing dishonorable about disagreeing, even passionately, with Bush, Perry, me or anyone else, about matters of policy, or about other things. Nor is it a sin to distrust them, or me. But, even if Corsi doesn’t think they are good people, and even if he doesn’t trust them, it is Wrong to give false witness against them.
Corsi’s sin is a grave one. It matters to God, and it matters to me. The prohibition of that particular sin made God’s “top ten list” of important commands, along with prohibitions against idolatry, murder, thievery, adultery, etc..
Note that God’s prohibition against bearing false witness against others is not restricted to people that we like, or that we trust. There’s little need for Ninth Commandment which forbids smearing the people we admire! Who would do that?
No, the main purpose of the 9th Commandment (or 8th, for Catholics) is to forbid the bearing of false witness against people we DISLIKE. It is just as much a sin to bear false witness against scoundrels (or people we think are scoundrels) as it is to bear false witness against Mother Teresa.
-Dave
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