Posted on 12/14/2007 8:40:56 AM PST by meandog
As my son said, tell me something I don’t know. But the use of this stuff is endemic. It is used by participants in every sport, including a lot of high school football plays, and the coaches and managers looked the other way, because the pressure to win is so great.
Seems like a simple situation to me...the innocent ones sue in civil court for slander and the guilty ones get an asterisk or get booted. This will go on for years and years and years.
In the report it notes that steroids were banned in 1991 by fay vincent.
You saw the report.
Mitchell timelines it back to 1991 when Fay Vincent banned steroids in a memo.
Technically, MLB should have stated an opinion when McGwire was using andro openly.
Congress threatened MLB with yanking its anti-trust status if it didn't get rid of steroids, so Bud put Mitchell on the trail to buy some time. In the meantime, MLB cut a deal with the union to put in place testing and punishments for test failures. Selig was in charge when all this happened, let it happen, and now thinks he's the sheriff to rid sports of steroids. What a loser.
The day he struck out 21 batters, his mother called him and said that that was his ticket to the Hall of Fame. Maybe not. He may wind up sitting on the bench next to Pete Rose.
Varies from case to case.
In clemens and petites case, no, but alot of other ballplayers paid via check and they have the copies, its all over the report.
Clemens was real-deal Hall of Famer without steroids. Also an obnoxious, arrogant bastard. Still, I hate to see him blow it. When he made an almost respectable comeback this season, I strongly suspected chemical assistance.
I think the real reason he left the Bosox was because the Framingham Chief of Police publicly pulled his gun permit, after he got into an affray with the Houston Cops in bar with his brother.
How can a prominent person live without protection? Especially in Framingham?
The son of one of my mothers friends wanted to try out for the baseball team with his friends.
Junior Varsity, not even varsity.
His friends hit the needle and juiced, he didn't (not out of health concerns, the kid just hates needles), He didn't make the team, he now accepts that if he wants to make the team, he either gets over his fear of needles and uses, or tries and fails.
His mother would rather he not play at all and has told him he can not use steroids, but she hates the fact that thats the only he would make that team.
I saw a picture of the team coach, I can take a pretty good guess where some players get the stuff from.
‘Clemens was real-deal Hall of Famer without steroids.’
Good luck proving that statement.
I wonder how many on the “list” are Republicans?
It’s axiomatic.
Where were these kind of “watch dogs” when JFK’s doctor was injecting him with speed and other drugs, on a daily basis? He, the doctor, should have been charged and had his medical license jerked, just like Elvis’s doctor’s was.
Its laughable today. Yesterday morning, maybe you could make the claim.
Not since 2 PM yesterday.
another thread somewhere is looking and will report on a fresh thread ( they said)
North of Route 9 is safe and solidly middle class.It's south of Route 9 where Framingham looks like a slum of Rio De Janeiro.With all his money I'm surprised he settled anywhere in Framingham rather than in Dover,Sherborn or Sudbury.
At the time, there was some debate about it, but it was legally recognised as a steroid by the gov't in 2004 under the anabolic steroid control act.
That said, its defined (via wikipedia, take this was a pound of salt) as "a 19-carbon steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands and the gonads as an intermediate step in the biochemical pathway that produces the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol.".
The world anti-doping agency has always considered it a steroid.
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