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High school student gets detention for using Firefox
TechRepublic ^ | Dec. 17, 2007 | Jay Garmon

Posted on 12/17/2007 11:41:53 AM PST by twntaipan

firefox_eats_ie.jpgLast week, a student at Big Spring High School in Newville, Pennsylvania was given detention for using Firefox on a school computer. Quoted below is the key explanation from the official detention writeup:

“Today in class [name] had a program launched called Foxfire.exe. I had told [name] to close the program and to resume work but he told me that is was just a different browser and that he was doing his work. I had given him two warnings but he insisted that it was just a ‘better’ browser and he wasn’t doing anything wrong. I had then issued his detention.”

I’m sure whether I should laugh or cry. It says so much about the state of technical education, respect for authority, what passes for civil disobedience and–of course–the all-consuming corporate hegemony of Microsoft. We live in a strange world.

Once again, hat tip to my buddy Lizard for the heads up.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: firefox; idiocy; marines; microsoft; microsoftnazis; mozilla
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To: twntaipan

The Kiddies can do what they want AT HOME!

The same goes with my users!


21 posted on 12/17/2007 11:51:25 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Ho, Ho, Ho!)
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To: AppyPappy
“How did Firefox get on the machine?”

It is an easy free download. All you have to do is got to

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

They have a free one, and then they encourage you to upgrade (at cost?).

22 posted on 12/17/2007 11:51:38 AM PST by AlGone2001 (He's not a baby anymore...)
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To: HamiltonJay

Whenever life was going a little too well, I sat down and tried to learn assembly language.


23 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:16 AM PST by dmz
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To: twntaipan
had told [name] to close the program and to resume work but he told me that is was just a different browser and that he was doing his work. I had given him two warnings but he insisted that it was just a ‘better’ browser and he wasn’t doing anything wrong. I had then issued his detention.”

Sounds like he was given detention for not following his teacher's instruction. The district may have security measures set up through IE profiles that are in place to protect the district's computers. But, even if that isn't the case, the teacher told him and gave him two warnings, the kid should have been punished.

24 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:21 AM PST by mnehring
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To: PAR35

“This comment brought to you via Firefox.”

The above mentioned comment viewed via Firefox.


25 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:25 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: twntaipan

You VILL USE THE INTERNET EXPLORER OR ELSE!.........,


26 posted on 12/17/2007 11:53:02 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: gunnyg

Once upon a time, there was a program called “NCSA Mosaic” ...


27 posted on 12/17/2007 11:53:55 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: joebuck; CA Conservative; E. Pluribus Unum

Your scenario assumes the student accounts have admin privileges. If IT gave the kids admin rights and is now mad because he’s using Firefox instead of IE, sounds like he’s more qualified than they are.


28 posted on 12/17/2007 11:54:32 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: twntaipan
Much to do about nothing and since you are talking about school it is, I’m not sure whether I should laugh or cry.
29 posted on 12/17/2007 11:55:07 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Mr. K
what is the difference, really? I use I.E. but I have tried firefox and see no diff, except that sometimes it doesn’t work correctly (for sites not firefox compatible)

I have had NO problems whatsoever using FireFox. When I use IE, it crashes practically every time, so as to be completely unuseable.................

30 posted on 12/17/2007 11:55:08 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: CA Conservative; twntaipan
In our school district, that would probably get you suspended, but just because we don’t install FireFox, and students are not allowed to install software on the systems.

Then these folks should have the login-account privvys setup correctly. They probably have the kids logging in as root/admin...and they deserve what they get.

31 posted on 12/17/2007 11:55:17 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Mr. K

I use IE7, and I’ve found Firefox takes a bit longer to load. Plus IE7’s tabs are easier to manage.


32 posted on 12/17/2007 11:55:57 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: steve-b

Yes, gay porn involving ducks. Therefore qualifying as protected behavior at goobermint skewles.


33 posted on 12/17/2007 11:56:09 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“He got detention for not doing what the teacher told him to do.”

I agree. I’d also bet there is something more to the story than what the headline implies.

When I was teaching I used to have a saying for parents; “Believe 50% of what your child says about me and I’ll believe 50 % of what your child says about you.”

Today, I might hedge that down to 30%.


34 posted on 12/17/2007 11:58:14 AM PST by incredulous joe ("Alan Keyes is my homeboy!")
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To: twntaipan
RIGHT ANSWER: Firefox? Cool. Just do me a favor and wipe the cache/history/cookies when you're done, and don't leave an icon on the desktop.

WRONG ANSWER: WTF? Dentention for you!

...posted via firefox, of course...

35 posted on 12/17/2007 11:58:42 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: twntaipan

What a dumb article. Institutions have standards for a reason. It doesn’t matter if Firefox is better, and this has nothing to do with Microsoft. This kid should be following the rules instead of being a jerkoff.

Yes, Johnny you are a unique and special individual. Just like everyone else.


36 posted on 12/17/2007 11:58:42 AM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: dmz

I loved the old C64... the 6502 (actually a 6510) was a breeze to code for, and the SID and VIC II chips let you do some very powerful effects with very little (relatively speaking) coding.

Closest thing I’ve touched since those heady days of C64 and C128 8 bit days have honestly been the video game systems. Particularly the Nintendo systems... The Gameboy in particular reminded me a lot of those systems, very open access to the hardware and ability to play around with it.


37 posted on 12/17/2007 11:59:12 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: CA Conservative
I had told [name] to close the program and to resume work

We need more information. This part makes me think he was suspended for not doing his web-based work. Since the teacher didn't see IE he thought the assignment wasn't being performed. There are a lot of people out there who still think IE=WWW, and unfortunately some of them are teaching our kids.

Still, the student should have closed the browser and then gone to the administration to tell them the teacher is a moron.

38 posted on 12/17/2007 12:00:02 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: HamiltonJay
In Junior High (must have been 86) we were using C-64's in the computer lab/class. Only AP students got to take the class.

The class without the computers and the lab with the computers were two separate rooms with a locked door in the middle.

One day I programmed what I called a "sound bomb" to disrupt class. Just a quick program that ran silent for 25 minutes then made a whole hell of a lot of racket.

Hit run and turned up the volume all the way....on all 20 computers.

Learned two things: First, under stress Junior High teachers cannot unlock doors, second under stress Junior High teacher also forget how to turn off power and insist on just banging on a disabled keyboard.

She never did figure out who did it.

39 posted on 12/17/2007 12:00:05 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: sam_paine

With Windows as I know it,...when you login YOU are the Root user and thus administrator....


40 posted on 12/17/2007 12:00:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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