Be Careful What You Ask For [Myth supporters]

1/2/08 | me

[Rick_Michael]

So we might have Myth as our nominee. We don't know yet, but lets consider that a possibility.

If one rewinds time back a bit, you'll remember a vague threat from Michael Bloomberg. He warned that if an 'extremist' like Mitt Romney was the nominee, he'd consider running.

As much as Michael is a liberal (and he is), he's shown to take away from Republicans slightly more than democrats. He could be a modern day Perot for the democrats, and the cash to handle an expensive campaign.

Will this happen and in this particular manner? We don't know yet. Although I'm sure Hillary has been considering this quite a bit,...given her high unlikeability. Any edge to her is dangerous.

So in closing, I hope the best nominee wins; if not that, than I hope Romney isn't put in a situation where Hillary will obviously win.

[Rick_Michael]

ps...Forbes has said it's an 80% chance that Michael will run.

[jdm]

Now you’ve done it. :)

[jdm]

Did you try putting “mythromney” as a keyword and the subsequent screen said “No thanks” with just an “okay” button?

[bill1952]

Bloomie running would be a visible interposition of God for the GOP.
I’m serious.

His political orientation is such that his adherents will be almost exclusively from Cobalt Blue States, like NY.

Is anyone seriously suggesting that Bloomie will pull GOP voters in Florida Teaxas or other Southern states.

If so, check your meds.

His candidacy would be Perot in reverse, sucking moderate (to them) voters in the otherwise secure dem states and forcing the clinton to invest heavily to outright win those states.
This changes the battlefield in the NE to a defensive posture for the dems, allowing the GOP to spend more heavily in the Midwest and SW states.

And all of that is very, very good.

[Rick_Michael]

No, I separated the Myth and the Romney, but come to think of it...they belong together. : p

[ontap]

Can someone explain to me why a liberal like Bloomberg will take away from Republicans nationally?

[Rick_Michael]

Given the nature of support that Rudy has in Florida...atleast according to polls, I’m not sure of that. I’m sure MOST (not all) of the south would be secure, but Florida is becoming more and more a California.

The demographic is increasingly hispanic and less cuban...which historically leans to the left.

15 years from now it may be a blue state.

All in all, I’m not suggesting this as fact, I’m contemplating what may come. Perot was more to the right than Michael, but I would love to see internal polls of him state by state...just to see where he’s pulling from.

Not just random opinions...even my own aren’t sufficient.

[Rick_Michael]

“Can someone explain to me why a liberal like Bloomberg will take away from Republicans nationally?”

I ask that about Huckabee...and still I wonder.

Rudy apparently is supported by ‘republicans’, so why not Michael?

[big'ol_freeper]

Kind of reminds me of the old Steeler's Wheel song "Stuck in the Middle With You"...words changed to reflect the current situation:

Well I don't know why I came here tonight
I got the feeling that something ain't right
I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair
And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs
Clowns on the left
Pretenders on the right, here I am
A conservative on the right with you.

Yes I'm A conservative on the right with you
And I'm wondering what it is I should do
It's so hard to keep this smile from my face
Losing control, yeah, They're all over the place
Clowns on the left of me, Pretenders on the right
Here I am, A conservative on the right with you.

Well you started out with nothing
and you're proud that you're a self made man
And your friends, they all come crawlin,
slap you on the back and say please... please.....

Trying to make some sense of it all
But I can see that it makes no sense at all
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor
Cause I don't think that I can take anymore
Clowns...

U.S. Army Retired

[ontap]

Rudy at least claims to be a republican!

[Rick_Michael]

“Rudy at least claims to be a republican!”

Claims...haha. Well, atleast you got that.

[bill1952]

In a decade where I didn’t like almost any songs - or disco - I did really like that one. :)

Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right.

Great catch there, I'm going to remember that one. - but now I feel very old ...

[reasonisfaith]

A significant number of Republicans will not vote for Rudy, Mitt, Mike or John, as evidenced by the level of passionate comments against these candidates in the blogosphere. Whether it’s 5% or 25% of total Republican votes, it will be enough to lose.

However, if Thompson is the nominee, all Republicans will vote for him, because he has no significant policy or ideological negatives. Thompson will unite the party like Reagan did, even bringing in many Reagan Democrats.

Fred is the best shot we have at keeping the White House.

[bill1952]

>Fred is the best shot we have at keeping the White House

Which is why you will hear almost nothing about either him or Hunter in the MSM while they concentrate on fruits and nuts.

[arthurus]

A Bloomberg candidacy could be interesting if he pulls a large percentage of liberal otherwise Republicans from the Democrat-lock states and leaves the Republican candidate with a large popular vote loss and an electoral college win. The Democrats would maybe go into shirt-ripping rages and apoplexy in the street. Mobs would roam the streets keying cars known to be owned by Republicans (in states where the Republicans voted for Bloomberg, of course).

[arthurus]

A Bloomberg candidacy could be interesting if he pulls a large percentage of liberal otherwise Republicans from the Democrat-lock states and leaves the Republican candidate with a large popular vote loss and an electoral college win. The Democrats would maybe go into shirt-ripping rages and apoplexy in the street. Mobs would roam the streets keying cars known to be owned by Republicans (in states where the Republicans voted for Bloomberg, of course).

[curiosity]

As much as Michael is a liberal (and he is), he's shown to take away from Republicans slightly more than democrats.

Where, exactly, has this been "shown?"

[curiosity]

A significant number of Republicans will not vote for Rudy, Mitt, Mike or John, as evidenced by the level of passionate comments against these candidates in the blogosphere

LOL. That's a good joke. Wait a minute, you don't really believe the blogsphere provides a representative sample of GOP voters, do you? No one can be that ignorant.

[Rick_Michael]

“Where, exactly, has this been “shown?””

Does this (below) mean that Michael wouldn’t be revealed as a liberal? No, but then again, Michael can act from the ‘right’ (like so many others).

If people could believe in the Myth, they could believe Michael changed as well. Apparently some of these people support Rudy...and Michael isn’t that far off from Rudy.

So it is conceiveable to see a situation like this....not absolute...but then again, I wasn’t claiming that.

Friday, April 06, 2007

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/independent_bloomberg_candidacy_would_be_gop_spoiler

Rasmussen Reports national telephone surveys show New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) essentially tied with both former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) and Arizona Senator John McCain (R).

However, when Bloomberg is added to the mix, Clinton leads both GOP hopefuls by nine points. Against both Giuliani and McCain, Clinton attracts 47% of the vote in head-to-head match-ups and 46% in a three-way race.

[curiosity]

A poll like that doesn't mean very much at this stage. Very few people know much about Bloomberg right now.