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Police Find Hiker's Blood-Stained Clothes, IDs
WSBTV.com, Action News 2, Atlanta ^ | 1/05/2008 | WSBTV

Posted on 01/06/2008 6:32:45 AM PST by Scoutmaster

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To: Alberta's Child

Looks can be deceiving...

From the late 70’s to the early 90’s — our motorcycle “gang” was a group of managers and engineeers from technology corporations in Silicon Valley, an assistant District Attorney from a local town and one venture capitalist..... We did not look unclean, unshaven or slovenly......

On many Sunday mornings, most of the eight of us would make the run to the beach at Santa Cruz, Capitola or Half Moon Bay for breakfast and then back home around Noon.... On long weekends we would frequently run North to Oregon or East to Tahoe or South to Death Valley.....

Rarely using Motels — we would usually just pull off into a forest fire road for the night...ground cloth, sleeping pad, sleeping bag with a throwover to stay dry.

One particular night near Mount Lassen -— there was an uneasiness due to unexplained sounds, and one guy simply mentioned that he had a pistol with him and for those in the group to announce themselves if they needed to move about that evening. This was common practice for those of us from the military...

Well - his announcement produced the acknowledgement that of the eight riders — 7 had pistols! This is in Kalifornicate - where no one had a concealed carry permit!

The assistant District Attorney was the only one without a piece and he was shocked that so many “righteous citizens” were violating the law by carrying weapons....

Our “clean” group of middle aged and affluent bikers, wouldn’t have struck fear into any serial killer -— until perhaps he learned that 7 of 8 were armed and 6 of 8 were “experienced veterans”......


51 posted on 01/06/2008 11:54:37 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Sender

We were just recently house hunting in the area North of Cumming along the Western shore of the now empty Lake Lanier.


52 posted on 01/06/2008 11:56:30 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Scoutmaster

....However, aren’t you allegedly ‘required’ to sleep in shelters rather than along the trail?....

No. In National Parks and some other controlled areas, but on much or the trail water is the controlling factor.

Some thru hikers stay in shelter to avoid carrying a tent, but others shun them because of people who stay up all night.


53 posted on 01/06/2008 12:06:58 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Scoutmaster

A police officer in Southern Indiana has been convicted twice of murdering his family and he had a lot better alibi than the officer that has been under investigation in this case. I can’t believe he was at a bar that late and then decided to go on rounds with his friend for the rest of the night. Like one officer said, his alibi was to good, although it looked like it had holes in it to me. I wonder if any of the suspects took a lie detector case.


54 posted on 01/06/2008 12:11:03 PM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: Scoutmaster

“...I think this would be murder number ten on the AT since 1974...”

Ten known murders, but how many people just disappeared and never turned up again?


55 posted on 01/06/2008 12:19:59 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: chasio649

I backpacked the Smokies in the 1970’s and never stayed in shelters, has it changed?


56 posted on 01/06/2008 12:24:42 PM PST by razorback-bert (Remember that amateurs built the Ark while professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Gritty; All
Ok everyone, question. My husband and I are arguing the point of carrying a gun hiking. Does one have to have a concealed license to carry while hiking or not if carrying the weapon visible? We hike alot with our family in many places in western NC and now we are seriously considering taking a weapon. Any advice would be welcomed.
57 posted on 01/06/2008 12:24:51 PM PST by Babsig
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To: Scoutmaster

This is very sad. I’m not entirely sure on the timeline, but it seems to me that they announced this guy’s name before they actually caught him. I suppose it may be because he was seen at the time of the disappearance last fall of two hikers, and perhaps he had been ID’d then. Or probably he was a previously convicted sex killer, paroled to hole up in the woods and wait for more victims. I bet we’ll find out that he had a record for things like this.


58 posted on 01/06/2008 12:29:42 PM PST by livius
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To: Sender

Yeah. That would creep me out too!


59 posted on 01/06/2008 12:33:24 PM PST by null and void (So many of us know so little about so much that effects the outcome of our lives.)
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To: Babsig

Check if SC’s CCW license is good in NC, then get one of those. Else you’d have to keep it hidden and risk not being able to obtain a license at a later time.


60 posted on 01/06/2008 12:37:24 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: razorback-bert

Yes...you have to register in the smokies and stay in assigned shelters...many thru-hikers hate all the rules but they understand the amount of people that will be on the trails...if they didn’t do this and patrol it...well there would be tents and trash everywhere in the park...it’s understandable.


61 posted on 01/06/2008 12:42:23 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Babsig

In my honest opinion...if you are not hiking alone, i wouldn’t worry too much....if you are with a group of people it is highly unlikely a predator would bother...if you are alone, you take your chances....even carrying a gun in your pocket, i could see all kinds of situations where you wouldn’t have a chance to even pull it....i believe this guy gained this girl’s trust because he had a dog out hiking with him also...she turned for a second and wham...hiking stick up side the head.

Sounds callous but it could have been simple as that.


62 posted on 01/06/2008 12:47:48 PM PST by chasio649
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To: livius
"I’m not entirely sure on the timeline, but it seems to me that they announced this guy’s name before they actually caught him.

You're right.

The first thing that happened was police announced they were looking for a "person of interest." They gave a description of the man, his yellow coat and black backpack based on several witnesses who had seen her between 3 and 5 p.m. on New Years' Day. At least one witness also described his dog and remembered its name.

Based on the dog and its name, and the description of the man, police received tips giving the man's name.

The "person of interest" announcements then identified him and gave the license plate numbers of his two white vans yesterday afternoon.

The police received two calls yesterday evening about 7:40 p.m., one from a Starbucks, saying that one of his vans had been spotted. The police found him by 8:00 p.m.

63 posted on 01/06/2008 12:50:16 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: blueheron2
"A police officer in Southern Indiana has been convicted twice of murdering his family and he had a lot better alibi than the officer that has been under investigation in this case. I can’t believe he was at a bar that late and then decided to go on rounds with his friend for the rest of the night."

For those not playing along, blueheron2 is talking about Tara Grinstead, the South Georgia teacher missing since October 2005.

Dateline did a story about her disappearance.

Suspects include or included her former boyfriend (ex-police, ex-Ranger), a married policeman from another county (who visited her at her school a day or two before she disappeared -- a visit that upset her enough that she left school and went home), and a 20-year old former student who was stalking her.

The area being searched is about 350 square miles of swamp, woods, lakes, and wells.

64 posted on 01/06/2008 1:09:46 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Gritty

My wife and I hike a lot in the area where the Bryants were murdered. There are an awfully lot of remote places out there where skulduggery would be extremely easy. Also, there are Wiccans, Satanists and druggies who hang around in these woods for their own various reasons - none of them wholesome. We completely avoid the area in the days around Halloween (we have seen clear evidence of rites).

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I would be less afraid of a wiccan or even pagan rite as opposed to satanist or some pervert.


65 posted on 01/06/2008 1:10:25 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: Southerngl

Absolutely. Wiccans harm no one.

Satanists and druggies are a different animal entirely.

Never never hike alone. And even when going in in small groups make a plan, mark a map, and leave it with the rangers at the ranger station with your in and out plans. That way, if you dont show up on time, they automatically launch a search.

When we hike, at least two of us pack heavy hitting handguns. They are in our packs, but readily avaliable, only to be revealed in case of emergency. Screw the laws, I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


66 posted on 01/06/2008 1:56:21 PM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Roses0508

Roses, you have said a truth. When I was a boy, I and my friends roamed the woods and wilderness without fear. We were respectful of the woods and of the wildlife that lived there and considered ourselves almost at home there. When I read stories such as this one, I wonder why we have allowed this human pollution to destroy the best places of our times and our hearts. This fellow who has been arrested in this case with substantial circumstatial evidence against him needs to answer questions. And he needs to answer them now! And if he refuses, he needs to be made to answer them!


67 posted on 01/06/2008 2:31:24 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: river rat

That’s where I am. I just don’t have an actual dock in the mud. I have to drive to the mud.


68 posted on 01/06/2008 2:38:00 PM PST by Sender (Feel like, I feel like a poke chop san'wich)
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To: Babsig
Does one have to have a concealed license to carry while hiking or not if carrying the weapon visible? We hike alot with our family in many places in western NC...

If you are hiking on either NC State land or National Forest lands (such as Pisgah) in NC, you are not supposed to carry a concealed handgun because of NC state law (even with a CCW). Nor is one allowed to carry a large caliber handgun open carry or a rifle unless it is hunting season (and then there are specific "rules").

You may, however, open carry a .22 pistol with a barrel less than 7.5 inches (the law refers to it as a "camp gun") at any time on either State or National Forest lands even if not hunting and without a hunting license. These are rather "old" laws but have been held over probably to prohibit poaching in The King's Forest.

However, I don't think one can legally carry in the Smoky Mountain National Park, because it is a "National Park" and the rules are different (and much more restrictive). You also want to beware "carry" on the Blue Ridge Parkway as it is also National Park Land.

A Ruger Mark II/III or Ruger .22/.45 fits the bill nicely and is a fairly inexpensive option but almost any shorter barreled .22 carried openly should do. I know it's not a lot of firepower, but it is comforting and I am of the opinion it is a deterrent to somebody bent on random mischief.

Of course, I know some people also carry concealed, but you asked for legal options. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

69 posted on 01/06/2008 4:12:12 PM PST by Gritty (Most Americans are sheep. Anyone who thinks there are no wolves is in denial.-LTC Dave Grossman)
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To: Skywalk

Agreed.

My best friend is Smith & Wesson.


70 posted on 01/06/2008 8:04:41 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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