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Can 80s TV hits succeed decades later?
ABC ^ | 1/10/08

Posted on 01/10/2008 10:46:44 AM PST by qam1

The days of neon leg warmers and hair scrunchies may be long gone, but the hit television shows from the 1980's may not be, as some of the top programs from the era continue to show up on this generation's plasma TVs. So far, NBC has been the only network to re-launch cult classics, first with "Bionic Woman" (the new version dropped the originals 'The' from the title) and then followed suit with "American Gladiators." The network is planning to air a new version of "Knight Rider" later this year, too.

With the writers strike still on and the networks having difficulty producing new -- and popular -- programming, TV insiders told ABCNEWS.com that re-inventing the cult classics, and appealing to viewers' sense of nostalgia, may be just what the industry needs.

"Broadcast network television is having the hardest time right now launching new TV," said Ben Grossman, the Los Angeles bureau chief for industry publication "Broadcasting & Cable." "It might be smart to launch something with a built-in audience." "If you can get people who know [the show] and remember it fondly and can get new people to watch, you've got a hit," added Grossman.

"Bionic Woman's" ratings weren't that impressive, and while "American Gladiators" were significantly better -- it was the highest-rated launch of any show this season so far -- it's still too early to predict its success, said Grossman.

No, it's not David Hasselhoff and the killer Trans-Am. Actor Justin Bruening and his customized Mustang update "Knight Rider" for its 2008 TV comeback.

"If you're re-making 'Bionic Woman' or 'American Gladiators' you know that at least a certain percentage of people are going to show up and watch out of curiosity and nostalgia," James Hibberd, a senior editor at "TVWeek," told ABCNEWS.com.

"This is why reality concepts from overseas are so popular, because you have at least some idea that they work," noted Hibberd. "If you're starting something from scratch you have to market the idea in a way that introduces the concept and so then you're rolling the dice because you have no template for success."

Several critics told ABCNEWS.com that NBC's decision to re-do the classics is at least partially due to the fact that Ben Silverman, co-chair of NBC Entertainment, is a Generation X-er himself, and may very well share in the nostalgia many have for the television programs they grew up watching.

But not everyone is convinced that shows that flourished more than two decades ago will continue to do so today, and some say that recycling the old content is ignoring the kind of creativity the industry desperately needs. "It's a lot easier to go with something that you know than to do something innovative," said Tom Lewis, the TV editor for the blog LAist.com. "There is a bit of a cop out [to re-doing old programs]."

Unlike the remakes of shows like Batman, Lewis told ABCNEWS.com that he thought the fault in the recent cult classic revival is that they are essentially the same shows transported into a later time period.

TV classics like "Bionic Woman" are being re-made in the hopes of attracting nostalgic fans and newcomers.

"Instead of embracing change and innovation the networks and their producers are holding onto drama [and] comedy show concepts and formats that made them big players 40 to 50 years ago," said Lewis.

Can the 'Oldies' Become the 'Goodies,' Again? Whether re-doing programming from previous decades will become a larger trend will depend largely on how successfully the first attempts are, according to TV insiders. If shows such as "American Gladiators" continue to pull in good ratings, other networks will be eager to jump on the bandwagon of a new business strategy -- much like what happened during the reality TV craze. "If somebody does find a little bit of success then everyone in television will run to copy what works. Look at "American Idol" and its rip offs," said "Broadcasting & Cable's" Grossman.

But nostalgia may not be enough to keep these shows afloat for more than a few weeks, according to Ray Richmond, TV critic and entertainment columnist for "The Hollywood Reporter."

"Nostalgia is a very powerful thing," said Richmond. "Everyone things everything was cooler 'way back when.'"

"And sometimes [shows or films] will come back and they'll be great, but often times they're paled imitations and it's better to leave the past," Richmond added. "You can't always duplicate success."


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1 posted on 01/10/2008 10:46:46 AM PST by qam1
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; xrp; ...
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2 posted on 01/10/2008 10:48:43 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

“Moonlight” on CBS sure looks an awful lot like the old “Forever Knight” from the 80s (about a vampire cop in Canada)


3 posted on 01/10/2008 10:51:29 AM PST by NewCenturions ('S mr mo mhulad, 's mr.)
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To: qam1
When are they going to re-make the A-team?

I see Rambo is coming out in theaters. Has Stallone been digitally remastered?

4 posted on 01/10/2008 10:52:07 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
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To: qam1

The 80s ruled in every way.

Better music:

Compare Motley Crue to any of that modern “metal.” Compare Tone Loc to modern Hip Hop.

Better movies:

“Real Genius” vs. “American Pie.” Pulleeze. “Superman IV” vs. “The Fantastic Four.”

Better sitcoms:

“Who’s the Boss” compared to “Insert Generic Reality Show Here.”

Better TV Babes: Alyssa Milano vs. Debra Messing...

Better supermodels. Christie Brinkley compared to...no one. She compares to no one!


5 posted on 01/10/2008 10:52:48 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: qam1

And lest we forget: Better politicians.

Ronald Reagan vs...Bush. Love ya W, but you’re NO Reagan. In no way, shape or form.


6 posted on 01/10/2008 10:53:26 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: qam1

More evidence that they are just totally out of ideas. How long before the Bionic Woman takes on a corporation that’s destroying the environment?


7 posted on 01/10/2008 10:54:12 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: RockinRight

Debra Messing isnt the typical hollywood beauty, but she has great hair, and isnt too shabby....i could see me with her....sans the restraining order...


8 posted on 01/10/2008 10:56:21 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

Oh, I’d hit it, don’t get me wrong.

*sheepishly looks around for wife*


9 posted on 01/10/2008 11:00:17 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: RockinRight
“Real Genius” vs. “American Pie.” Pulleeze. “Superman IV” vs. “The Fantastic Four.”

You obviously meant to write "Superman II," because that was the only good Superman movie made in that decade.

10 posted on 01/10/2008 11:02:20 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Tenacious 1

They are making an A-Team movie where they are vets of the Gulf War.


11 posted on 01/10/2008 11:05:38 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: qam1

One of our local stations just started showing “Happy Days,” “Laverne and Shirley,” and “Mork & Mindy” re-runs. I was 3 when HD started, but each episode of each show we’ve seen is funnier than any sitcoms we’ve seen lately.

We tried “Til Death”, and “Back to You,” but they got old fast. I just hope “Life” survives the strike. I love that show.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 11:09:44 AM PST by hoppity
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To: qam1

I’ll stick with reruns of original Bonanza.


13 posted on 01/10/2008 11:09:50 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: RockinRight
The 80s ruled in every way.

Amen! Compare Miami Vice, Magnum PI, Simon & Simon with anything on today. Compare Van Halen/Van Hagar with any music out now.

14 posted on 01/10/2008 11:10:02 AM PST by rdl6989 (FRed Thompson '08)
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To: Tenacious 1
When are they going to re-make the A-team?

Isn't that the truth! Many a happy youthful memory associated with the A-Team.

Simon and Simon, Miami Vice, Riptide, Airwolf, etc. So many good action and sleuth shows.

So much of TV these days is trite and there is little broadcast TV that I watch. CSI (the original) and House are among the few (less than 10) current TV programmes that I watch. The rest are on satellite (Mythbusters and a couple of others).
15 posted on 01/10/2008 11:11:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

If Stephen Cannell is involved, then I’ll consider watching it.


16 posted on 01/10/2008 11:13:50 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: rdl6989

I was a metal fan in the 80’s, but now I am listening to Sirius radio’s “First Wave” station. All the original alternative bands— Smiths, Talking Heads, The Cult, The Cure. I think popular music peaked in the 80’s and has been on a rapid decline since.

Now, popular music seems to be either hip-hop or retread style or retread songs from the 80’s.


17 posted on 01/10/2008 11:14:04 AM PST by hoppity
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To: qam1
Can the Small Wonder remake be far behind?

small wonder

18 posted on 01/10/2008 11:14:50 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: RockinRight

You made me get weepy, dammit! You mentioned Reagan and I started getting misty and feeling fuzzy inside.


19 posted on 01/10/2008 11:15:23 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: hoppity

I listen to First Wave, Hair Nation, the Big 80s, Classic Vinyl, Classic Rewind, Buzzsaw, Sirius Patriot of course, and even Symphony Hall and Prime Country (80s country) once in a while.


20 posted on 01/10/2008 11:15:44 AM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: qam1

Uhh, wasn’t The Bionic Woman from the 70s?


21 posted on 01/10/2008 11:17:41 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: hoppity

Also, the current crop of singers can’t seem to get along without a voice machine.

My WMP is loaded with 80s music ranging from punk to metal to New Wave, etc. That, and classical, classic rock, and a select number of current artists who actually have talent.


23 posted on 01/10/2008 11:18:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

That would not surprise me in the least. maybe she’ll be a secret project of some “Evil Corporate Laboratory” in some PC remake.


24 posted on 01/10/2008 11:20:03 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: dfwgator

Yes bionic woman was in the 1970’s.


25 posted on 01/10/2008 11:24:24 AM PST by rdl6989 (FRed Thompson '08)
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To: hoppity
As long as Kat Foster is on the show, I'm in.

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26 posted on 01/10/2008 11:25:45 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: rdl6989

I must admit the new Bionic Woman is pretty hot.


27 posted on 01/10/2008 11:25:50 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Army Air Corps

There’s talk that Ice Cube would be BA, so they are off to a good start.


28 posted on 01/10/2008 11:26:25 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: qam1

The 80’s rocked.


29 posted on 01/10/2008 11:26:54 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: GraniteStateConservative

But he must have the bling. Can’t be BA without the 30 pounds of jewelry. :-)


30 posted on 01/10/2008 11:27:30 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: dfwgator
They need to bring back Batman from the 60s.
31 posted on 01/10/2008 11:28:04 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: GraniteStateConservative

That was a funny show. We used to watch it when we got home from chuch on Sunday morning.


32 posted on 01/10/2008 11:29:47 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: qam1

The Bionic Woman wasn’t from the 80’s.


33 posted on 01/10/2008 11:31:22 AM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: qam1

34 posted on 01/10/2008 11:33:04 AM PST by rdl6989 (FRed Thompson '08)
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To: qam1

On an episode of Fox’s “Bones” Emily Deschanel was dressed in a Wonder Woman outfit for Halloween. She looked every bit as hot as Lynda Carter did in the original.


35 posted on 01/10/2008 11:34:17 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("At last my arm is complete!" Sweeney Todd)
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To: qam1
Primetime Network TV Schedule.

WOW! That brings back some memories.

Friday nights = CBS = Dukes of Hazzard, Dallas, Falcon Crest
Thursday nights = Magnum PI, Simon & Simon, Knotts Landing.
36 posted on 01/10/2008 11:40:49 AM PST by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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To: shbox

That schedule just totally made me smile.


37 posted on 01/10/2008 11:42:27 AM PST by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: GraniteStateConservative

“They are making an A-Team movie where they are vets of the Gulf War.”

Oh hell no!

Please tell me you’re joking.

Knight Rider I can see, but this can not stand!


38 posted on 01/10/2008 11:44:02 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ShadowDancer
Saturday Night Schedule 1980-81

ABC = Breaking Away, The Love Boat, Fantasy Island
CBS = WKRP in Cincinnati,The Tim Conway Show, Freebie and The Bean, Secrets of Midland Heights
NBC = Barbara Mandrell & The Mandrell Sisters, Walking Tall, Hill Street Blues

39 posted on 01/10/2008 11:48:48 AM PST by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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To: raygunfan; RockinRight
Striking with writers last November:


40 posted on 01/10/2008 11:49:27 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: Tenacious 1

The A Team.....

Our top commandos from the Vietnam war......

Every week they fired thousands of rounds from automatic weapons.......

and NEVER SHOT ANYONE!!!!!!!

No wonder we lost Vietnam /sarc


41 posted on 01/10/2008 11:50:25 AM PST by fredhead (Four cylinders, air cooled, horizontally opposed...the REAL VW.)
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To: qam1

I’m waiting for “Saved By The Bell” and “CHIPS”.


42 posted on 01/10/2008 11:51:10 AM PST by fredhead (Four cylinders, air cooled, horizontally opposed...the REAL VW.)
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To: CholeraJoe
On an episode of Fox’s “Bones” Emily Deschanel was dressed in a Wonder Woman outfit for Halloween.

Her sister Zooey is pretty cute too.

43 posted on 01/10/2008 11:51:20 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: qam1

Well, you take the good...you take the bad...you take them both, and there you have...80s TV shows. ;-)


44 posted on 01/10/2008 11:59:26 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: RockinRight

The Mets made more headlines than the Yanks, Reagan won blue states, you could still get good pizza on every corner, you could get away with wearing a Fila track suit without irony, Metallica and the Cure were “underground” artists, Penthouse was not a urological journal, and you didn’t walk past Avenue A after dark. Dose were da days!


45 posted on 01/10/2008 12:02:45 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: dfwgator

I remember Zooey Deschanel from the movie “Elf” with Will Ferrell.

She sang a couple songs on that one. Her voice was incredible. I can’t believe no one has gotten her to record.


46 posted on 01/10/2008 12:04:02 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Clemenza

I would KILL for a good pizza right about now. This ‘eating healthy’ and ‘weight loss’ BS is for the birds.


47 posted on 01/10/2008 12:04:54 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck(abee, not the Freeper Huck) Sucks.)
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To: fredhead
"Saved by the Bell" was the early-mid 90s. It was mostly a girls show from what I remember.

CHIPs would have to be remade a la Brokeback Mountain.

48 posted on 01/10/2008 12:08:57 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: dfwgator

“I must admit the new Bionic Woman is pretty hot.”
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They’ll never re-create the character. Lindsay Wagner’s Jaime Sommers was the perfect everywoman (grade-schoolteacher) plunged into extraordinary circumstances, saving the world every week, but who only wanted to live an ordinary life. She could do glamorous when the mission called for it but was much more comfortable in jeans and t-shirt.


49 posted on 01/10/2008 12:09:10 PM PST by sinanju
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To: qam1
With a few exceptions, I hated 80s tv even back in the 80s. In fact, bad 80s tv is what hooked me on Nick@Nite as a teen in the 80s.

However, the Bionic Woman wasn't 80s tv...it was 70s tv. Since I loved it so much as a kid, I gave the new one a chance. I really wanted to like it, but just couldn't get into it.

50 posted on 01/10/2008 12:12:45 PM PST by Kellykoop (All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people.)
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