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Tiger Victim's Mom Talks to Survivor ('We didn't do nothing')
AP ^ | 1/10/08

Posted on 01/10/2008 6:05:07 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

Tiger Victim's Mom Talks to Survivor

5 hours ago

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — The mother of the teen killed by a tiger at the San Francisco Zoo says one of two friends injured in the attack told her that none of them had done anything to taunt the animal.

Marilza Sousa spoke with Paul Dhaliwal by phone on Monday — their first conversation since the Christmas Day attack, the San Jose Mercury News reported Thursday.

Sousa said Dhaliwal, 19, told her the tiger jumped over the fence while the trio was talking and tore a long gash in his skull before wrapping its jaws around the throat of her 17-year-old son, Carlos Sousa Jr., killing him instantly, the newspaper said.

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"Did you stick anything through the fence or taunt the tiger?" Sousa said she asked Paul Dhaliwal.

"No," he reportedly said. "We never tried to taunt the animal. We were talking, laughing, walking, nothing else."

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The Sousa family had said they called the Dhaliwals several times since the attack trying to learn what happened, but their messages were not returned.

Marilza Sousa said Paul Dhaliwal apologized Monday for not calling sooner. "I didn't know what to say," she says he told her.

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To: Mr. Brightside
I have said if the the brothers were drunk and under the influence of marijuana, as reports have claimed, that they should be charged.

But if they were sober it was OK to taunt the animals?

21 posted on 01/10/2008 11:00:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
But (aside from the fact they were mauled by a tiger due to zoo negligence) they are also victims of a smear campaign by city officials at the zoo and police department.

The police say there is no evidence the boys 'taunted' the animals. Other than one witness stating she saw them "roar" at the lions, the police have nothing.

I take it you believe the police are both egregious liars and paragons of truth.

ROTFLMAO

22 posted on 01/10/2008 11:13:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
My opinion is, bottom line creatures such as a tiger should not be kept in a cage just for our pleasure in looking at them.

Who knows what happened, whether the kids taunted the tiger intentionally, or they were just animated in the tigers view means nothing now.

The tiger leaped over the moat and the fence, killed one boy and was going after the other two boys.

I say lets leave the tigers in their domain, as is the killer whales, or freedom in other words.

23 posted on 01/11/2008 2:07:52 AM PST by valkyry1 (Thompson/Hunter Hunter/Thompson all the way!)
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To: TigersEye

You must not have followed the story.


24 posted on 01/11/2008 4:15:35 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: pandoraou812

None of us would take our families to the zoo if the enclosures and cages were only strong enough to hold “untaunted” animals. None of us would tolerate prisons that could only keep prisoners who did not get “enraged.”

You know that. I know that.

(Why are we even having this discussion?)


25 posted on 01/11/2008 4:19:03 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: metmom
Guys that age do not travel in groups that far just to go to the zoo on a Sunday evening because it’s a fun, wholesome, family thing to do. They were looking for trouble and got more than they barginned for.

I believe it was a Wednesday.

26 posted on 01/11/2008 4:20:31 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: raptor29
If a criminal leads police on a 120 mph chase, people like Brightside support the criminal’s complaint when the police are aggressive in subduing him later. No regard for the police life, and not an ounce of consideration given to their fear and the adrenaline they might be pumping after a 20 minute chase at life-threatening speeds. Brightside would say that the police should have been more skilled at shooting out the tires of the criminal’s car to keep him from putting himself and others in jeopardy.

Actually, what I would say is that a 100 MPH pursuit of a kid who steals $38 of gasoline is a little too dangerous considering you are chasing him on a winding mountain road in the rain.

And I would bet that the police department will probably issue new guidelines insuring that a life is not wasted like that again.

27 posted on 01/11/2008 4:25:38 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

You must have not been following the story. It happened on Tuesday - Christmas Day in fact.


28 posted on 01/11/2008 5:33:28 AM PST by repinwi
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To: repinwi

She was the one who said it was Sunday.


29 posted on 01/11/2008 5:35:56 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: repinwi

... which is begging the question anyway.

You must also subscribe to the theory that the boys must have been up to no good since they visited a zoo on a Tuesday.


30 posted on 01/11/2008 5:37:54 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

You are getting hammered by most everyone on this site, regarding this issue. Clue in.


31 posted on 01/11/2008 5:46:11 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Mr. Brightside

Tuesday - Christmas Day - A day when the youngest boy who got killed should have been with his mother. If you recall, the boy’s father called the one of the dilly brothers to ask where his son was and they lied. They said they haven’t seen him. When in actuality he was with them at a zoo....50 miles away from home.....on Christmas day.....while his mother waited for him to show up for dinner.


32 posted on 01/11/2008 5:47:31 AM PST by repinwi
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To: raptor29

Yeah... I am getting hammered...

Your side has falsely claimed these boys were guilty because they dangled a leg over... dropped a board or picnic table into the pit to help the tiger escape... dropped a shoe in the moat... used slingshots on the animal and called even them “muzzie cowards” for not attacking 350 pound Siberian tiger barehanded to save their already dead friend.

All you have left is that the brothers “roared” at a lion and missed Christmas dinner with their mother.


33 posted on 01/11/2008 5:54:48 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: repinwi

My confusion. I guess it was the fact that it was not an ordinary day that caused it. But that’s also one thing that sticks out.


34 posted on 01/11/2008 6:07:37 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Hey pal, you don’t have anything. You are sitting there reading newspaper accounts of a story that for most people, is not passing the smell test. Only time anything like this has ever happened in an American zoo in history, no one’s talking, and most people instinctively know something strange happened to cause this situation. And for whatever reason, you have locked in to defend and condemn people with very limited information with which to form your position. And I’ll tell you this. When it all does come out, you better have enough guts to be back on here and take the hammering.


35 posted on 01/11/2008 6:36:02 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Mr. Brightside
‘We didn’t do nothing’

Based on my extensive background in criminal justice and watching lots of re-runs of "COPS", this is street slang for "We're guilty but don't have a good alibi." See, mystery solved! ;)

36 posted on 01/11/2008 6:42:29 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: raptor29

I will plead guilty to believing the police who claim that the brothers were cooperative and that there is no evidence the brothers committed a crime and that they were cooperative.

And I will plead guilty to not foaming at the mouth with the rest of your “smell test” lynch mob.

Will you ever have the guts to say that you were wrong? Or will you just fade away like the rest?


37 posted on 01/11/2008 6:45:28 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The problem with your theory is that zoo officials are using the same excuse.

“We didn’t do nothin wrong.”


38 posted on 01/11/2008 6:47:21 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

“I will plead guilty to believing the police who claim that the brothers were cooperative.........”

Because of course, law enforcement regularly gives the media all the information they have regarding an ongoing criminal investigation. Are you kidding me?

“Foaming at the mouth”? Most of the foaming is coming from you, as your over-the-top Kool-Aid defense of these punks (and stop calling them ‘boys’, they left ‘boy’ behind years ago) is the primary reason you are catching as much heat as you are on this thing.


39 posted on 01/11/2008 7:10:33 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Mr. Brightside
(Why are we even having this discussion?)

I have no idea why you think I want the cages not to be secure. I keep posting the same thing to you all the time. The zoo should have been better maintained , it's animals need to be protected from people who can't behave in a respectful manner. That the zoo is at fault for allowing the animal to get out. You keep telling me I am wrong, that it is fine for people to roar, caw & hiss. I keep telling you its NOT. When you agree people ought to respect animals I suppose it will end...How does that sound?

40 posted on 01/11/2008 7:17:50 AM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't taunt the animal's at the zoo or they may bite YOU!)
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