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Alleged briefing to President Reagan on UFOs posted online [Incl below]
AMERICAN CHRONICLE WEBSITE OF STEVE HAMMONS ^ | 2 NOV 2008 | STEVE HAMMONS

Posted on 02/10/2008 10:43:47 AM PST by Quix

QUIX NOTE:
1. The following article is posted on FR by the kind written release and authorization of Steve Hammons. Email verification is available on demand.

2. The following is one of many good articles by Steve Hammons at AMERICAN CHRONICLE on a diversity of topics including UFO’s—a field he has done extensive high quality research and reporting on. Beyond that, he is actively seeking the truth with quality research teams focused on priority cases. I’m newly aware of him and his writing and research efforts. I’m very impressed with the quality of both as well as with his background and personality. I encourage folks to familiarize themselves with his website and work.

3. BOLD AND COLOR emphases per Quix, as usual.

FROM:

Alleged briefing to President Reagan on UFOs posted online

By Steve Hammons

November 02, 2007

What is claimed to be a transcript of a 1981 intelligence briefing to President Ronald Reagan about UFOs and extraterrestrial visitation to Earth was posted on the Web site Serpo.org on Oct. 30, 2007.

QUIX NOTE: Link to that site’s transcript here:

According to the moderator of the Web site and a related e-mail stream discussion list, the transcript is from a briefing Reagan received at Camp David, Maryland, between Friday and Sunday, March 6 and 8, 1981.

Those present reportedly included several advisors to the president, CIA Director William Casey and a CIA contract employee who worked within a group of “caretakers” safeguarding information and other resources regarding the UFO-ET issue.

The names of presidential advisors who are still living were redacted by the moderator during his preparation of the transcript for public consumption. Former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and advisor Michael Deaver are named.

The Web site and discussion moderator indicates that Defense Department and Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) personnel provided him with this information to be released to the public as part of an acclimation effort. That is, as part of preparation of the American public for more disclosure about the UFO-ET situation.

The transcript information posted is reported to be only part of the briefings to Reagan on these subjects.

REAGAN IN THE LOOP

In the transcript, Casey begins the briefing. “Mr. President, good morning. As we discussed in February, this briefing contains some very sensational and some very, very classified information. I am not sure, oh, well, I'm not going to make a decision on who you want in the room. That will be your decision, Mr. President.”

This will be a real tough one to follow since the briefing starts back, historically speaking, that is, and runs up to recent times. I believe we have prepared a good chronological order of events. I'm sure you, Mr. President, will have many questions,” Casey reportedly stated.

After a discussion to determine who in the room had a “need to know,” the proper security clearance or had not previously been briefed on the matter, Casey continued, according to the transcript.

as you will see Mr. President, this stuff is pretty high up on the food chain. We call it ATS or ‘Above Top Secret.’ This stuff has its own classification and markings. We have a special container, special printers and copiers for this stuff. Every word of this material is printed on special paper then placed inside special covers.”

The caretakers have taken special efforts to protect all of this stuff from being released inadvertently or copied by some unauthorized person.”

After further discussion about the information in the briefing, some advisors choose to leave the room. Casey then turns the meeting over to “The Caretaker.”

Good morning, Mr. President. First of all, I would like to give you a bit of information on my background. But before that, please, Mr. President, if you have questions during this briefing, just interrupt me, sir.”

I have been employed by the CIA for the past 31 years. I started the caretaking status of this project in 1960. We have a special group of people whom we call ‘Group 6,’ that cares for all this information.”

According to the transcript, Reagan was somewhat familiar with the topic, having previously received a one-hour briefing from Casey the previous January, and also had been exposed to other information, stating, “Well, I knew a little about this subject before. Back in 1970. Nixon had all of the good stuff and wanted to share it with some of his friends. Nixon showed me some papers. Not sure about who authored them, but they ... huh ... well something about New Mexico and other places.”

Nixon was pretty ... huh ... well, you know, fascinated with it. He showed me something, some kind of object or device that came from one of their craft. Something that was taken from the New Mexico crash site. I don't know if, well ... huh ... do we know what it was? I don't think we knew or maybe now, after 11 years, we might know.”

After a short break, The Caretaker began the briefing.

Mr. President, as was mentioned earlier, I must say, that this briefing has the highest classification within the U.S. government. I will start with a slide presentation. I have most of this briefing on the slides, but I also have an outline that I have passed out to each in attendance.”

The United States of America has been visited by extraterrestrial visitors since 1947. We have proof of that. However, we also have some proof that earth has been visited for many thousands of years by various races of extraterrestrial visitors.”

Mr. President, I'll just refer to those visits as ETs. In July, 1947, a remarkable event occurred in New Mexico. During a storm, two ET spacecraft crashed. One crashed southwest of Corona, New Mexico and one crashed near Datil, New Mexico. The U.S. Army eventually found both sites and recovered all of the debris and one live Alien. I'll refer to this live Alien as ‘EBE 1.’"

Mr. President, EBE means ‘Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.’ It was a code designated to this creature by the U.S. Army back in those days. This creature was not human and we had to decide on a term for it. So, scientists designated the creature as EBE 1.”

Reagan asked, “Do we or did we have others? The number ‘1’ would seem to indicate we had others.”

The Caretaker responds, “Yes, we had others.”

All the debris and EBEs recovered from the first crash site were taken to Roswell Army Air Field, Roswell, New Mexico. EBE was treated for some minor injuries and then taken to Los Alamos National Laboratories, which was the safest and most secure location in the world. Special accommodations were made for EBE. The debris was eventually transferred to Dayton, Ohio, home of the Air Force Foreign Technology Division.”

The second crash site wasn't discovered until 1949 by some ranchers. There were no live Aliens at this site. All this debris went to Sandia Army Base in Albuquerque, New Mexico.”

Reagan asks, “OK, a question, regarding the first site, how many aliens were in the spaceship?”

Five dead aliens and one alive. The bodies of the dead aliens were transported to Wright Field in Ohio and kept in a form of deep freeze. They were later transported to Los Alamos where special containers were made to keep the bodies from decaying.”

The Caretaker continues, “There were four dead aliens in the second crash site. Those bodies were in an advanced state of decaying. They had been in the desert for the past two years. Animals and time got to those bodies. The remains were transported to Sandia Base and eventually onto Los Alamos.”

We determined both crashed spaceships were of similar design and the bodies of the aliens were all identical. They looked exactly the same. They had the same height, weight and physical features. Here are the photographs of the aliens.”

They don't have any similar characteristics of a human, with exception of there eyes, ears and a mouth. Their internal body organs are different. Their skin is different, their eyes, ears and even breathing is different. Their blood wasn't red and their brain was entirely different from human.”

We could not classify any part of the aliens with humans. They had blood and skin, although considerably different than human skin. Their eyes had two different eyelids. Probably because their home planet was very bright.”

EBE stayed alive until 1952 when it died. We learned a great deal from EBE. Although EBE did not have voice organs like humans, it was able to communicate with an operation performed by military doctors. EBE was extremely intelligent. It learned English quickly, mainly by listening to the military personnel who were responsible for EBE's safety and care.”

EBE was housed in a special area at Los Alamos and Sandia Base. Although many different military doctors, scientists and a select number of civilians studied EBE, it never became upset or angry.”

EBE helped us learn from all the items found in the two crash sites. EBE showed us how some of the items worked, such as a communications device. It also showed us how various other devices worked.”

EBE did explain where he lives in the universe. We call this star system Zeta Reticuli, which is about 40 light-years from Earth. EBE's planet was within this star system.”

It took the EBE spaceship nine of our months to travel the 40 light-years. Now, as you can see, that would mean the EBE spaceship traveled faster than the speed of light. But, this is where it gets really technical.”

Their spaceships can travel through a form of ‘space tunnels’ that gets them from point A to point B faster without having to travel at the speed of light. I cannot fully understand how they travel, but we have many top scientists who can understand their concept.”

PRESDIENTS AND PROGRAMS

The Caretaker goes on to give Reagan a history of presidential involvement and some of the programs involved over the decades dealing with the UFO-ET situation.

As to some history. The original project, started back in 1947, was called ‘Project GLEEM.’ This project contained volumes of documented information collected from the beginning of our investigation of UFOs and Identified Alien Craft, or ‘IAC.’"

The project was originally established in the early '50s by, first President Truman and then by order of President Eisenhower, under control of the National Security Council. President Truman established a group of people to handle this project. The group was called Majority 12 or ‘MJ-12.’"

In 1966, the project's name was changed to ‘Aquarius.’ The project was funded by confidential funds appropriated within the intelligence community's budget. The recovery of these alien spacecraft led the United States on an extensive investigative program to determine whether these aliens posed a direct threat to our national security.”

As you might remember, Mr. President, our country openly investigated UFO sightings under projects Grudge, Sign and finally Blue Book.”

The United States felt relatively sure the aliens' exploration of Earth was non-aggressive and non-hostile. It was also established that the aliens' presence did not directly threaten the security of the United States.”

Secondly, the public was beginning to believe that UFOs were real. The NSC felt this public feeling could lead to a nationwide panic if we disclosed everything we knew about UFOs and alien visitation.”

When the Air Force officially closed ‘Blue Book’ in December 1969, Project Aquarius continued operation under control of NSC/MJ-12. The NSC felt investigation of UFO sightings and incidents had to continue in secrecy without any public knowledge.”

The reasoning behind the decision was this: If the Air Force continued its investigation of UFOs, eventually some non-cleared and non-briefed Air Force or DOD civilian officials would obtain the facts behind Project Aquarius.”

Obviously, for operational security reasons, this could not be allowed. In order to continue the investigation of UFO sightings and incidents in secrecy, investigators from CIA/DCE and MJ-12 were assigned to military investigative units with orders to investigate all legitimate UFO/IAC sightings and incidents.”

These agents are presently operating at various locations throughout the U.S. and Canada. All reports are filtered either directly or indirectly to MJ-12. These agents are collecting reports of UFO/IAC sightings and incidents occurring on or near sensitive governmental installations.”

Reagan suggests a break. And then the meeting resumes.

In the 1976 MJ-12 report, it was estimated that the aliens' technology was many thousands of years ahead of ours. Our scientists speculated that until our technology develops to a level equal to the aliens, we cannot understand the large volume of scientific information we have gained from the aliens' craft. This advancement of our technology may take many hundreds of years.”

Mr. President, time is very different on the Eben Planet, which, by the way, we call SERPO. Their day is approximately 40 hours. That is measured by the movement of their two suns. The solar system containing SERPO is a binary star system, or two suns, rather than one, like our solar system.”

GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS

Picking up on an implication within a statement from Casey, Reagan asks, “Are you telling me there are different races or species, as you said, visiting Earth at the same time?”

Can you tell me how many different species have visited us?” Reagan asks.

The Caretaker states, “At least five.”

Reagan: “Are they all friendly?”

An advisor who is not named in the transcript reportedly says, “Mr. President, that is a very difficult question to answer. There are many parameters that we follow to evaluate the threat. However, we have little intelligence on four of the five.”

We have plenty of intel on the Ebens ... gee ... they've given us everything we asked for! They have also helped us to understand the other four species. I'm afraid to say, Mr. President and please don't misunderstand my words, but we think one of the species is very hostile.”

Reagan is clear about his position. “I'm the President of the United States. I should know if we are endangered by some threat from outer space. If you have something to say about a threat posed by this one species of aliens, then I want to hear it.

Casey explains. “Mr. President, we have intelligence that would indicate this one species of aliens have abducted people from Earth. They have performed scientific and medical tests on these humans. To the best of our knowledge, no humans have been killed.”

We have captured one of these hostile aliens. This gets into some very, very sensitive areas, Mr. President. I strongly suggest we end this discussion and move on to any further questions you might have and then get back to this. I don't think we are prepared to provide you with accurate answers to your questions about the potentially hostile aliens at this time,” Casey reportedly says.

Reagan: “OK, but expect this to be given to me as soon as possible. I want to know everything about these hostile creatures so I .... or I mean we should start forming policies on how to deal with them … do we have operational war plans on this?”

Presidential advisor (name redacted): “Yes, Mr. President, we have war plans on all potential threats to our country.”

The Caretaker explains further, “We call the hostile aliens simply that, HAV, meaning Hostile Alien Visitors. MJ-12 placed that code on them back in the '50s.”

Reagan asks, “You mean to say, these H-A-Vs have been visiting us and kidnapping our people since the '50s?”

Casey: “Mr. President, we have some indication that they might have been doing this for some time. But we really have to consider all of the evidence, listed in our reports, and compare that to some of the open source information.”

PUBLIC INFORMATION, DISINFORMATION

The Caretaker: “In order to protect all this information and the fact that the United States Government has evidence of our planet being visited by extraterrestrials, we developed over the years a very effective program to safeguard the information. We call it ‘Project DOVE.’ It is a complex series of operations by our military intelligence agencies to disinform the public.”

Reagan recalls stories from his days as a Hollywood actor. “I always knew there was some form of cooperation between our government and the motion picture industry. I heard rumors over the years ... even during my acting days.”

The Caretaker confirms this. “Well, Mr. President, the first cooperative venture was the movie, THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. That was a cooperative venture with the United States Air Force and the movie industry.”

Reagan: “That movie, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, was that one of them? I guess no "Bonzo" movies were involved. (Transcript: “Loud laughter heard.” Moderator’s note in transcript: “Reagan played the character Professor Peter Boyd in the Sept 1951 movie, BEDTIME FOR BONZO where a chimpanzee named Bonzo was his costar.)

Regarding Reagan’s question about CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, The Caretaker responds, “Yes, Mr. President, we provided the basic subject matter for that movie.”

Reagan: “Was it based on a real incident?”

The Caretaker: “Mr. President, in 1964, we were able to have our very first controlled encounter with the Ebens. Let me first give you the background. EBE was a mechanic, not a scientist. He was still able to teach us some of the Eben language. Their language was very difficult for our linguists to learn because it consisted of tones, not words.”

However, we were able to translate some basic words. EBE showed us their communications device. It was a strange looking device that had three parts. Once assembled, the device sent out signals, something like our Morse code system, although there was a problem.”

During the crash in 1947, one part of this communication system was broken. EBE was unable to repair it until our scientists found some items that could be used in place of the broken parts. Once the communication device was repaired, EBE sent our messages. We had to trust EBE as to the contents of those messages.”

You can imagine what some of our military commanders thought of this. EBE could be sending out a distress call that could result in some invasion. But that, of course, never happened. EBE continued to send messages until his death. But once he died, then we were on our own. We were able to crudely operate the device. We sent several messages out over a six month period (1953). But we did not receive any return messages.”

Mr. President, EBE sent out six messages. One letting his home planet know that he was alive and his comrades were dead, another explaining the two crashes, the third was a request to be rescued, the fourth was a message suggesting a meeting between his leaders and our leaders. The last message suggested some form of an exchange program.”

After discussion about how linguists and other communications experts were able to establish communications with the Ebens, and the years of effort involved, The Caretaker gets to a main point.

Over a period of a few years, we could send and receive information. We finally received a startling message from the Ebens. They wanted to visit Earth, retrieve their spacemen bodies and meet with Earthlings.”

They provided a time, date and location. We figure that the Ebens were continually visiting Earth and had probably mapped it. However, the date was about eight years in the future.”

Our military figured something was wrong and that maybe the Ebens were confusing Earth time with Eben time. After a long series of messages, it was determined the Ebens would land on Earth on Friday, April 24, 1964.”

Our government, specifically, MJ-12 met in secret to plan the event. Decisions were made, then changed many times. We had just about 25 months from the time we finally received their message of the date to prepare for their arrival. Several months into the planning, President Kennedy decided to approve a plan to exchange a special military team. The USAF was tasked as the lead agency.”

The USAF officials picked special civilian scientists to assist in the planning and crew selection. The team members' selection process was the hardest to accomplish. Several plans were suggested and then changed. It took months for the planners to decide on the selection criteria for each team member. They decided that each member must be military, single, no children and a career member. They had to be trained in different skills.”

Mr. President, a team of 12 men were selected.”

When it came time for the meeting, we were ready. The landing occurred in New Mexico. We had everything prepared. We had a hoax landing location just in case it was leaked. The landing occurred and we greeted the Ebens. However, a mix up happened. They were not prepared to accept our exchange personnel. Everything was placed on hold.”

Finally in 1965, the Ebens landed in Nevada and we exchanged 12 of our men for one of theirs.”

Mr. President. Our team of 12 went to the Eben planet for 13 years. The original mission called for a 10-year stay, however, because of the strange time periods on their planet, the team stayed three additional years. Two died on the planet and two decided to stay.”

Reagan: “OK, this is just amazing! I can see, about that movie. The movie was based on a real event. I saw that movie. 12 men left, along with Richard Dreyfuss.”

Casey: “Mr. President, yes, the movie was similar to the real event, at least the last part of the movie.”

TRUTH, FICTION OR SOMETHING ELSE?

This section of the alleged transcript of an intelligence briefing to Reagan can be read in full at Serpo.org. The moderator has also provided additional background information on the Web site.

He indicates that more similar releases may be coming as part of public acclimation activities.

Is this transcript real or phony? Is it completely accurate, completely false or some combination of truth and deception? There is really no sure way for readers to know, at this point in time.

Like other information on Serpo.org about an alleged exchange program with ETs and all of the other reports out there about UFOs, it can be quite difficult to differentiate between fact and fiction.

However, sometimes truths can be told within fictional contexts. Fact-based fiction can provide good information and insight.

Did Reagan and our other presidents receive these kinds of briefings? Do the circumstances described in the alleged transcript actually exist, or something similar to them? Again, who knows?

Yet, we know these things are possible. And, deep down, we may have gut instincts and intuition about the situation that may make us wonder if there is quite a bit of truth in this kind of information.

If we look deep inside our hearts and minds, and into the skies, maybe we will find some answers.

For more information, see my Nov. 1, 2007 article "Presidential debate brings UFO issue to the surface."

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More to follow as I have time.

My own sense of the article is that the Reagan depicted in the article is authentic to the Reagan we all loved. His character and typical responses are all congruent.

The Serpo stuff has been debated endlessly on ATS

HTTP://WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM

and has many itneresting twists and turns regardless of what the "objective" truth is.

Personally, I still think that

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

and Guy Malone have the best analysis of what the FALLEN ANGELS/ NEPHILIUM/ WATCHERS /"ET'S" are up to.

Prayerfully pondering the above is a fitting response, imho.

Blessings,

1 posted on 02/10/2008 10:43:58 AM PST by Quix
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To: Quix

Quix, the dialogue in this seems so stilted as not to have come from actual people. It reads more like an amateurish movie script of the “event.”

Does the source maintain that this is the ACTUAL dialogue?


2 posted on 02/10/2008 10:51:49 AM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; Alex Murphy; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; areafiftyone; ...

UFO PING LIST PING.

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list.

Cautiously . . . watch the skys.


3 posted on 02/10/2008 10:53:16 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Good thing we don’t post anything here that would qualify us as a kook site.


4 posted on 02/10/2008 10:54:23 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: JennysCool

It was edited.

I don’t recall how much of the original transcript was included at the source. I may check in another hour or 3.

If you get to it before I do, please let us know.

Sorry.

Thanks.


5 posted on 02/10/2008 10:58:30 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Dog Gone
Good thing we don’t post anything here that would qualify us as a kook site.

You mean other than McCain vanity threads?

6 posted on 02/10/2008 11:00:01 AM PST by TADSLOS (Cut out the middleman- Write in Calderon for El Presidente!)
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To: Dog Gone; All

I SAY AGAIN:

it was the flakiest kook groups that

FIRST AND MOST ACCURATELY SAID

1. WHO AND WHAT HITLER WAS

2. WHAT HE WOULD DO

OVER

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I think folks who have been willfully blind may have missed the increased

1. degree of drama in sightings the last 12 months;
2. brazenness
3. discussion of such from various circles . . . some of them interesting, indeed . . .
4. degree of professionals going public, putting their names and reps on the line about what they have seen.


7 posted on 02/10/2008 11:01:01 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: JennysCool

Gotta agree, this reads like some amateur fan fiction for Men in Black or some other cheesy movie.


8 posted on 02/10/2008 11:01:05 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: TADSLOS

You mean other than McCain vanity threads?

= = =

INDEED.

What could be kookier than considering him a Patriot at this point.


9 posted on 02/10/2008 11:01:56 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: aft_lizard

Time will tell.

My hunch is it’s valid.

How MUCH of it was authentic wording, I don’t know.

How MUCH of it was disinformation, I don’t know.


10 posted on 02/10/2008 11:03:09 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Fascinating reading true or not, in any event! Thanks.
11 posted on 02/10/2008 11:03:23 AM PST by Rush4U (unnamed source)
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To: Quix

I guess if there are HAV’s and they were planning on taking us over or something, why hesitate? No need in waiting until we get more and more advanced.


12 posted on 02/10/2008 11:04:46 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Quix
Zeta Reticuli, which is about 40 light-years from Earth. EBE's planet was within this star system." It took the EBE spaceship nine of our months to travel the 40 light-years.
About 53 times the velocity of light.
13 posted on 02/10/2008 11:04:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: Quix

I did a favor once for President Bush shortly before the 2000 election. If you’d like me to call that chit in and have you appointed ambassador to Eben, let me know.

The chit expires shortly anyhow.


14 posted on 02/10/2008 11:08:30 AM PST by Dog Gone
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http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Incident.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Reticuli

some other info on the star system, from a kooky source:

http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/zetareticuli_star_sys.htm


15 posted on 02/10/2008 11:08:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: Quix

As someone who has seen UFOs, I think this article is complete bunk.

One of the first concerns of Ronald Reagan would have been if the Soviets or Chinese had met with aliens or had acquired any of their technology.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 11:16:43 AM PST by kidd
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To: Quix
I dunno, dude...taken alongside Reagan's "alien speech" to the UN on September 21, 1987, this stuff is pretty scary.

Reagan's Alien Speech

17 posted on 02/10/2008 11:24:01 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Quix

Bump for later... wow.


18 posted on 02/10/2008 11:24:43 AM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Quix

bm


19 posted on 02/10/2008 11:35:59 AM PST by Global2010 (Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
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To: Quix
ROTFLMAO

Good one. You got me.

20 posted on 02/10/2008 11:35:59 AM PST by b_sharp
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To: JennysCool; Revolting cat!
Quix, the dialogue in this seems so stilted as not to have come from actual people. It reads more like an amateurish movie script of the “event.”

Does the source maintain that this is the ACTUAL dialogue?

Paula Trent: "Now, don't you worry. The saucers are up there. The graveyard is out there. But I'll be locked up safely in there." (Ed Wood's Plan 9 From Outer Space)

21 posted on 02/10/2008 11:36:24 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

There ya go. Reagan said vicious Martians might unite us, so that’s proof of vicious Martians.


22 posted on 02/10/2008 11:38:25 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Quix

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 NIV

Frightening but truthful times.


23 posted on 02/10/2008 11:54:29 AM PST by FReepapalooza (Look away, look away, look away Dixieland)
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To: Dog Gone; All


24 posted on 02/10/2008 11:59:48 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: JennysCool

Yep, it does have that ‘Creative Writing 101’ flavor to it, doesn’t it? Watching too much of the X-files and listening to too much Art Bell can wreak havoc with any new writer’s nascent prose. Realistic dialogs are tough, even for the most experienced writer. Tossing in a dose of Clancy might have improved it. Better yet, the author needs to do some remedial SF reading before starting the next rewrite.


25 posted on 02/10/2008 12:00:02 PM PST by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


26 posted on 02/10/2008 12:06:42 PM PST by Peanut Gallery ("An armed society is a polite society.")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I thaw one of them flying sockafurs, I’m kinda skerred of them, ain’t you?


27 posted on 02/10/2008 12:07:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Quix
Finally in 1965, the Ebens landed in Nevada and we exchanged 12 of our men for one of theirs.” Mr. President. Our team of 12 went to the Eben planet for 13 years. The original mission called for a 10-year stay, however, because of the strange time periods on their planet, the team stayed three additional years. Two died on the planet and two decided to stay.”

Oh, sure.


28 posted on 02/10/2008 12:10:08 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Rush4U; All

You’re quite welcome. here’s a list of other articles of

STEVE HAMMONS at his website on various topics of interest to me—including a lot of UFO articles.

NOTE: I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE PERSPECTIVE IN EVERY PARAGRAPH BY A LONG SHOT. But these articles are all things that I think would do many wise folks good to be aware of what’s out there . . . what many folks believe, experience, observe, know . . . prayerfully discerning truth as best one can . . . picking out the fly specks from the pepper . . . I think a lot of disinformation is in such fields.

I don’t know much about Steve Hammons’ values and perspective but I think he collects info and writes about it in a quality way.

Local reporter on Texas UFO case leaves newspaper; integrity of local, national news media explored

February 09, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/51832

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Texas UFO witnesses threatened for talking to media?

February 07, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/51650

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Triangle-shaped UFOs are focus of sightings, research

January 30, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50763

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Special research team targets emerging phenomena

January 28, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50474

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Are Texans ready for details of UFO visitation?

January 26, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50308

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Is Stephenville a tipping point in UFO disclosure?

January 24, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/50167

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Texas UFO sightings are part of larger, deeper questions

January 22, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49945

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Researchers, others visit Stephenville to gather information, insight about UFO sightings

January 17, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49945

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UFO spotted in Texas is latest of many sightings

January 15, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49104

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Unconventional discoveries and theories help us prepare for an uncertain future

January 06, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49104

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Survey shows majority of Americans suspect cover-ups, distrust federal government

December 21, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49104

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Meanings of human ‘intelligence,’ new discoveries are important in 21st century

December 20, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49104

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Presidential debate brings UFO issue to the surface

November 01, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/41800

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Unconventional discoveries, communications media can help human race make progress

September 13, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/37594

[QUIX note: I think occultic sources of anything are great hazards to the individuals involved as well as those who put any trust in them]

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‘Dumbing down’ of Americans may not be working: More intelligence emerges

June 12, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/37594

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Emerging discoveries in human consciousness may change many global activities

May 24, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/27957

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New movie ‘The Last Mimzy’ is exciting family adventure into mysterious phenomena

May 04, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/25971

[Quix note: Sounds like tons of occultic stuff and disinformation mixed with bits of truth here and there . . . possibly slightly true bits . . . though I believe that all kinds of ‘discoveries’ and real truth will be strange enough in the next several years.]

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Former Arizona governor says he saw ‘Phoenix Lights’ UFO

March 18, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/22360

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Phoenix Lights incident anniversary sparks ‘Eyewitness 2007 – You Are Not Alone’ conference

March 13, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/22064

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Who is a Cherokee? Many Americans have Indians in the family tree

March 06, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/21743

[Quix note: with my great granddad being full Cherokee, I had to include this one.]

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New documentary film ‘Fastwalkers’ on UFOs, ETs premieres in Phoenix

February 22, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/21743

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Navy dolphins may be deployed: Did secret ESP research involve them?

February 14, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/21743

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Amazing enhanced human perception abilities are emerging, say researchers

February 08, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20423

[Quix note: occultic forces are well able to counterfeit many things and then sell the counterfeit idea as the explanation. Avoid being fooled. Accept only that which comes from Christ Jesus through His Cross, Spirit and Blood]

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More strange lights and craft over Phoenix and Arizona sighted

February 07, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20385

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UFOs over Iran could be U.S. operations, extraterrestrial visitors or both

February 02, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20385

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Navy SEALs and Marines use positive human traits and virtues for success

January 29, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20385

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Gathering intelligence: Grassroots intel by and for the people

January 26, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20385

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Information on unusual phenomena useful for global conflict resolution, human development

January 26, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/20385

[QUIX NOTE: I think this sort of thing needs watched very carefully. I think the globalists are quite active in such arenas very manipulatively]

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Second interrogation of writer shows interest in unusual phenomena

January 24, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/19612

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Interrogation of journalist, novelist: Interest in UFOs, unusual topics grows

January 19, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/19612

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Ten-year anniversary of ‘The Phoenix Lights’ UFO encounter approaches

January 10, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/18956

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Disc-shaped UFO over Chicago’s O’Hare Airport triggers national, international news coverage

January 04, 2007

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/18655

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Navy SEAL officer’s report on ‘remote viewing’ urges ‘transcendent’ intelligence

December 26, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/18354

[QUIX NOTE: I still consider this occultic and quite dangerously evil . . . with spiritual forces involved convincing humans that humans are the soul agents involved]

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U.S. defense research agency sponsors ‘mind-blowing’ studies to regrow human limbs

October 10, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/14652

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New diabetes medicine from Gila monster saliva causes excitement

September 26, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/14652

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Earth’s crust and poles wander, drift and shift: Dangerous days ahead?

September 08, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/14652

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More claims released to public on government contact with extraterrestrials

August 24, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/14652

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Secret data allegedly disclosed on ‘visitors’ from space, government projects

August 21, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/12538

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New novel ‘The Grays’ uses fact-based fiction to tell amazing truths

August 16, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/12538

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News on Project SERPO deceptions takes researchers, public on complex paths to truth

June 30, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/12538

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New information about ‘Project SERPO’ made public: What does it mean?

May 19, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/9919

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Top secret projects, Roswell Incident and Bible prophesies merge in new novel

April 25, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/8671

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History of government surveillance of UFO witnesses and investigators examined in new book

April 19, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/8341

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Near-death experiences shed light on views of afterlife

April 13, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/8073

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Cautious approach is wise on ‘Project SERPO’ story and disclosure of sensitive information

March 03, 2006

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/6501

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Project SERPO mission to visitors’ home planet described in detail

December 16, 2005

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/6501

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Alleged ‘Project SERPO’ sent U.S. military team to another planet?

December 13, 2005

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/4163

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Columnist’s article on Native Americans, Cherokee, needs more insight

November 17, 2005

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/4163

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Secret WWII U.S. Army intelligence unit has lessons for us now
October 28, 2005

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/4163

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29 posted on 02/10/2008 12:14:56 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: kidd

I think it would have been a concern.

I don’t think I was living inside Reagan’s head enough to state very assuredly what his first 5 concerns would have been, much less his first one.

Given that you evidently did live inside his head that closely . . . how did he feel about . . . Sedona?

And the secret oil reserves?

And corruption in high places in California [something my uncle was exposed to so closely that he left California for his safety]?

And what did he really think of Nancy during her rants?


30 posted on 02/10/2008 12:20:26 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He was sharper than a lot gave him credit for.

And, while the puppet masters may have scripted his role, I’m still convinced he was a lot more of a patriot than a lot of other Presidents.


31 posted on 02/10/2008 12:21:11 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Volunteer

Thanks.


32 posted on 02/10/2008 12:21:30 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: b_sharp

If I got you

what the blazes do I do with you?


33 posted on 02/10/2008 12:22:12 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: FReepapalooza

Thankfully,

our Refuge in God Almighty is secure.

Walking WITH HIM, IN HIM, is, of course, required for such safety.

And, probably, given some evident givens . . . probably even required for minimal sanity in the near future.


34 posted on 02/10/2008 12:23:37 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Great front pages.

Thanks tons.


35 posted on 02/10/2008 12:24:12 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Do you believe in UFOs, astral projection, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?

Ghostbusters

36 posted on 02/10/2008 12:26:21 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Quix
And, while the puppet masters may have scripted his role, I’m still convinced he was a lot more of a patriot than a lot of other Presidents.

In Reagan's case the puppet masters were probably Eben, which isn't the same thing as the normal puppet masters who control the stock market and NFL football, for example.

Ronald Reagan might have been somewhat patriotic, but I don't think there is any doubt that his true allegiance was to a planet 39 light years away.

37 posted on 02/10/2008 12:33:21 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Quix
Here is why I cannot believe that much of this can be factual:

"Five dead aliens and one alive. The bodies of the dead aliens were transported to Wright Field in Ohio and kept in a form of deep freeze. They were later transported to Los Alamos where special containers were made to keep the bodies from decaying."

This is just not believable. The "watchers" are not biological beings, and thus would not leave 'bodies' behind, unless perhaps they left some bodies of humans that they had tampered with.

Space Patrol reruns anyone?

38 posted on 02/10/2008 12:38:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Dog Gone

It’s becoming more and more obvious why your dog is gone. ;o)


39 posted on 02/10/2008 12:47:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Quix

“probably even required for minimal sanity in the near future”

With His srength, all things are possible.

This is truly a time to be witnessed.


40 posted on 02/10/2008 12:47:57 PM PST by FReepapalooza (Look away, look away, look away Dixieland)
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To: SunkenCiv
"About 53 times the velocity of light."

They were a bit low on fuel, and so had to keep it down somewhat below warp54 :o)

41 posted on 02/10/2008 12:51:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor

This is just not believable. The “watchers” are not biological beings, and thus would not leave ‘bodies’ behind, unless perhaps they left some bodies of humans that they had tampered with.

= =

Scripture indicates that your assummptions about that are wrong.

Check out Genesis 6

The Nephilium/ fallen angels/ watchers were quite biological ENOUGH to impregnate human women MUCH TO GOD’S DISPLEASURE.

God is evidently none to pleased with the continued hybridizing activities going on in our era.


42 posted on 02/10/2008 1:28:04 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: FReepapalooza

I can sort of imagine a little why some of the great saints of old wanted to be born in this time . . .

FRom Glory to Glory is OK.

But I’ve had quite enough fiery furnaces and long dark nights of the soul, thank you, very much! LOL.

I am convinced, however, that God has lots more surprises up His bigger sleeve than satan has any clue about.

But, it is getting increasingly INTERESTING, in the Chinese sense of the word.


43 posted on 02/10/2008 1:29:55 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: FReepapalooza; All

Quix,

I am scheduled for a brief interview (15 mins.) on the Coast to Coast AM radio show tonight. Host Ian Punnett and I plan to discuss recent developments of interest at around 12 midnight Central Standard time...coasttocoastam.com

- Steve [Hammons]


44 posted on 02/10/2008 1:38:17 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; All

Per one of the above links:

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49945

The following article:

Texas UFO sightings are part of larger, deeper questions

By Steve Hammons

January 22, 2008

The sightings of unusual lights and a huge object or craft in the vicinity of Stephenville, Texas, seem to have helped improve the public discussion, news coverage and understanding about these kinds of situations.

The news media appeared to cover the story fairly responsibly with initial “hard news” coverage from reputable organizations such as the Associated Press.

The news facts of the case – the who, what, when, where, why and how – were generally explored and presented in a straightforward way.

Of course, there were not always clear and easy answers to some of these journalistic questions.

We had several credible witnesses who were identified. A local county peace officer, a pilot and business owner, a metalworker and others stated they saw things ranging from highly unusual lights to a huge solid object approximately a mile long.

Some people saw the lights from a distance, though the lights definitely did not look like any conventional aircraft, according to witness reports.

One local resident stated he saw an object directly overhead at an altitude of about 300 feet and he used the scope of his hunting rifle to get a good look.

The extremely high speed of the object was also noted as an unusual feature.

There were no reports of anyone being injured or harmed.

GRADUAL ACCLIMATION

Whether it is part of a planned effort or a series of somewhat random incidents, Americans and people around the world are getting used to reports of this kind. These types of news stories still generate much interest, but we seem to be less surprised that incidents like this occur.

There have been reports that part of the activities of those involved in handling the UFO and extraterrestrial (ET) visitation situation is acclimating us to this surprising set of circumstances.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary describes “acclimate” as “to adapt to a new temperature, altitude, climate, environment, or situation” and “acclimation” as “the process or result of acclimating” and “physiological adjustment by an organism to environmental change.”

Of course, in the case of humans, an adjustment of this kind would also be emotional, psychological, social and probably spiritual for many people.

The way our news, information and communications media deal with situations such as the Stephenville case can help this process along, or hinder it. Part of the many types of responses we might see in the media and society as a whole is probably based on the current state of acclimation to current “facts on the ground” ... and in the sky and space.

It is a big leap to go from thinking that humans are the most advanced life form around to considering that we might be in a phase of development similar to what other intelligent civilizations went through a long time ago.

Yet, gradually many people seem to be opening their minds and preparing themselves for the possibility that the many sightings and stories about UFOs might have some truth in them.

Another factor is that many patriotic Americans and people in other nations are inclined to go along with the decisions and security elements of their governments. If this is a top-secret situation, then many people respect that. We might trust that the right people are handling things in the best way.

Our dilemma is that some of these things are unclear, maybe purposely so. Are we really being prepared for the gradual awareness of unusual truths? There hasn’t been an announcement on TV from national leaders about this, so does that mean that nothing of interest is going on?

Sometimes we have to read between the lines and see the forest for the trees. What is the big picture? What does our common sense tell us? What do our gut feelings, intuition and instincts say about situations such as the Stephenville sightings?

HUMAN PERCEPTION

Our ability to absorb and interpret information from news reports, articles, books, movies, TV shows and other sources is key to advancing our understanding of the possibilities involved. We use our eyes and ears to gather information and come to conclusions based on what we see and hear.

In addition to our five physical senses, our inner awareness might also be helpful. This is where human intuition and instinct come into play. The growing understanding that humans have a “sixth sense” perception in addition to sight, hearing, touch, taste and smell can be a useful asset.

Whether it is in regard to everyday life or unusual phenomena, learning about and developing our sixth sense is another tool we can apply.

It may be true that when we look around the world at war, suffering, injustice, poverty and other problems, we might sometimes doubt that humans are really an “intelligent” species. But, the human race is developing and maybe the opportunities to move forward on these and other challenges will be available. Advance abilities of perception are part of this.

The development of the human race and the different societies and sub-groups around the Earth seems to be tied with the interesting events in the Stephenville area. Are average Americans and average people around the planet ready to handle seeing something like this? Can our brains, minds, hearts and souls deal with the possibilities?

These are questions about the psychology, emotional factors, social dynamics and spiritual strength of humans. Do we have intelligent responses and legitimate questions about what might be going on? Do we use our eyes, ears, senses and our sixth sense to gain understanding about a possibly complex situation?

For those who have read or seen accounts on TV or in movies about interesting and unusual phenomena, the connection between U.S. military and intelligence “remote viewing” (a type of ESP technique) and UFOs is part of the puzzle.

In the 1970s, ‘80s and ‘90s the Navy, Army, Air Force, CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and civilian researchers conducted research and operations using remote viewing. They had good results that seemed to prove that human extrasensory perception was real and could be very useful in many ways.

An interesting element in the many stories about “Project STARGATE” (one of the many code names for these efforts) is that some government remote viewers perceived UFOs and extraterrestrial visitors near Earth using these ESP techniques.

Certainly this is not proof positive of anything. It is not even as good as the witness accounts from Texas. But, it is interesting.

COMPLEX SITUATION

There are accounts from so-called “insiders” who may know quite a bit more than average people about what we are dealing with. Are there secret projects involving communication and cooperation with visiting non-humans? Have they shared advanced technology with us? Are there benefits or dangers about which we might have a “need to know?” Are some things best kept secret?

Does the background of this scenario go back only to the World War II era or much further into human history, maybe even ancient human history?

Maybe there are people who have found out about these things and they are sworn to secrecy, at least for now. Though we might be curious and try to satisfy our curiosity, we also may want to respect legitimate security surrounding these questions.

The debate about the “dumbing down” of Americans and other people may be relevant here. Are we capable of deep and intelligent perception about UFO sighting incidents and what they might mean? Let’s hope so.

Because there seem to be indications that we will be finding out more about what is going on in these areas and many others.

Human consciousness may take a leap forward. Scientific understanding may make positive breakthroughs. Spiritual awareness may manifest itself in uplifting ways. Our perception and awareness may improve significantly. Solutions to the problems facing the human race may become available.

For those who feel that God or the Great Spirit has a plan, we might see the unfolding of this divine blueprint. We might even enjoy improved connections between Heaven and Earth, and with our loved ones who have passed on into the afterlife, another dimension or however we might describe it.

For those who believe that we are on our own, with or without visitors from other planets and/or dimensions, there might be hope that knowledge and intelligence will win over ignorance and we will move forward in significant and positive ways.

A big picture. A complex picture. How are all these elements related? How does the Stephenville case, the O´Hare airport incident, the Phoenix lights sightings and many other similar phenomena fit into this picture?

These are not silly questions. They are important questions for intelligent people to explore seriously, closely and deeply.

NOTE TO READERS: Hammons is the author of two novels about a San Diego-based joint-service team of ten women and men who investigate emerging special topics – MISSION INTO LIGHT and the sequel LIGHT’S HAND. Readers can browse the novels online at the publisher’s Web site. The books appear online exactly as they do in print. Once at table of contents of each book, visitors can click on each chapter to go directly to that chapter. Please click the links below to browse the novels.


45 posted on 02/10/2008 1:41:12 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Interesting post. One of those things I wish were true but can’t actually believe.


46 posted on 02/10/2008 1:43:16 PM PST by Doohickey (McCain 2008: A President with Tourette's will make press conferences interesting...)
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To: Quix
Is there a link to the transcript itself?

(Preferably as a scan of the actual document)

47 posted on 02/10/2008 1:44:59 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I included a link to the transcript on the serpo site upthread. I forget which post. I’ve read most of it. Some interesting details were left out. I found it convincing. But it’s a lot like the excerpts posted above.

By convincing I’m not saying I believe it was word for word accurate to the real briefing.

I have no trouble at all believing it’s all staged, edited, massaged, likely distorted in a variety of ways at some level . . . but it was full of Reaganisms true to his personality and character.


48 posted on 02/10/2008 1:48:37 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Doohickey

Given my info from my relative and all I’ve studied over 45+ years . . .

it would be

MUCH MORE ILLOGICAL for me NOT to believe.

Stay tuned, things are heating up as everyone I know who’s observed the field for a long time agrees.

You may not have long to wait for your “proof.”

BTW, TYPE II ERRORS can be as deadly as TYPE I ERRORS.


49 posted on 02/10/2008 1:50:05 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: BenLurkin

Here’s the link to the serpo doc I’m about to read.

You might be able to dink around in their index and find the Reagan briefing doc


50 posted on 02/10/2008 1:51:28 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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