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The Killing Machine: Che Guevara
The New Republic ^ | July 11, 2005 | Alvaro Vargas Llosa

Posted on 02/12/2008 9:04:55 AM PST by OESY

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1 posted on 02/12/2008 9:05:02 AM PST by OESY
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...Much as I’d like to think that no American would support cold-blooded murderers of Americans, there’s too much evidence that some do. I can’t ignore the evidence when it walks around in front of me. While it’s true that Americans are not literally supporting Osama bin Laden or the apparent ringleader of the beheaders, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, many are supporting some things which are too close for comfort. Moore, of course, describes the Iraqi beheaders in glowing terms by comparing them to early American revolutionaries. Whether they agree with his statement, it’s clear that plenty of Americans support Michael Moore generally. Michael Moore is considered cool.

In some quarters, he’s considered almost as cool as Che Guevara.

Guevara’s image adorns T-shirts which I see on a regular basis. These shirts are worn by young people who think Guevara is way cool.

Yet Guevara was a murderer. While he didn’t torture his victims by sawing off their heads as does Zarqawi, I think most reasonable people would agree that this constitutes torture:

He [Guevara] was fond of tying people up, blindfolding them and then popping a cap in the backs of their heads while their wives and children were forced to watch. Great guy to have on your t-shirt to show how cool you are. While in terms of numbers, Guevara as a murderer doesn’t quite rank up there with bin Laden, there’s a distinct similarity in style: cold blooded murder of innocent people. Tying up and shooting people in front of wives and children is about as ghastly a crime one can commit. In fact, ask the average guy which of these two ways he’d prefer to go:

A. (Zarqawi) To be tied up, and have a guy slice your head off with a knife in the name of his bloodthirsty “god”; or

B. (Guevara) To be tied up and shot in the back of your head with your wife and kids right there being forced to watch.

I’m not a pollster, but I think many people (perhaps even a majority) would choose the Zarqawi method.

But who is worse isn’t really the point. What bothers me is that too many Americans are glorifying cold-blooded murderers as cool. In my opinion, they should watch the beheading videos, just to be clear on the concept of what it is they advocate. There are so many of these Guevara lovers running around that otherwise rational people might get confused too.

More on the Hollywood-driven Guevara phenomenon here and here. (Robert Redford has made a touching “Portrait of the Murderer as a Young Stud” aimed at the tender teeny-weenies. Is the idealistic young bin Laden next?)

As to coolness and Michael Moore, there’s little question that despite the obvious problems presented by his physical appearance (let’s face it, a teen heart-throb he’s not), he’s aiming for Guevara status.

And, while I’d be glad to dedicate the beheading videos to Che Guevara himself, Moore will do.

It’s just my way of mocking the idea that cold blooded murder is somehow “cool.”

UPDATE: Via Andrew Sullivan, here’s more on Hollywood’s love affair with Guevara, including this lovely Che quote:

“Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become…” Who said hate wasn’t cool!

— Eric, http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/001538.html


2 posted on 02/12/2008 9:06:45 AM PST by OESY
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Great post. I printed it out for later reading. Thanks.


3 posted on 02/12/2008 9:08:45 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: OESY
Che’s lust for power had other ways of expressing itself besides murder. The contradiction between his passion for travel—a protest of sorts against the constraints of the nation-State—and his impulse to become himself an enslaving state over others is poignant.

Obama bump!

4 posted on 02/12/2008 9:13:34 AM PST by JPJones ("Get away from me you liberal meathead you")
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Barack's office workers make the case for McCain.

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5 posted on 02/12/2008 9:29:21 AM PST by OESY
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La Cabaña Prison, Havana, Cuba
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Fortaleza de San Carlos de la Cabana, commonly known simply as La Cabana, is an 18th century fortress complex located on the elevated eastern side of the harbor entrance in Havana, Cuba.

Construction of La Cabaña was begun in 1763 by King Carlos III of Spain, the controlling colonial power of Cuba, following the temporary capture of Havana by British forces (an exchange was soon made to give Cuba back to the Spanish in exchange for Florida). Replacing earlier fortifications next to the 16th century El Morro fortress, La Cabaña was the largest colonial military installation in the New World by the time it was completed in 1774, at great expenses to Spain.

The fortress served as both a military base and prison over the next two hundred years for both Spain and an independent Cuba. La Cabana was used as a military prison during the Batista regime. In January 1959, rebels led by Che Guevara captured La Cabana and used it as a headquarters for several months while leading the Cuban revolution.

During his five-month tenure in that post (January 2 through June 12, 1959), Guevara oversaw the trials and execution of many people, among whom were former Batista regime officials and members of the “Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities” (a unit of the secret police know by its Spanish acronym BRAC), as well as many other individuals whose interests did not coincide with those of the regime.

The complex is now part of a historical park, along with El Morro, and houses several museums open to the public.



An office inside the La Cabaña fortress in Havana. According to tour guides, Che Guevara commanded the fortress from this office during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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6 posted on 02/12/2008 9:44:49 AM PST by OESY
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Partial list of persons sentenced in Cuba

Name / Sentence / Charge / Real reason for sentence / Place of detention

Matías Alonso Aquino, lawyer 30 years Distributing propaganda and speaking against the government in public Failing to belong to any government organization. He was forbidden to defend himself in court Pinar del Río

Alberto Alvarez de la Campa, pharmacist 20 years Conspiring against the government Disagreeing with the government Teacher-training school, Havana

Enrique Arias Arias, student 9 years Planning a clandestine escape from Cuba Not being involved in government activities Guanajay Prison

Nerber or Belausaran López, office worker 20 years Attempting to subvert the powers of the State Having belonged to the Army before the Revolution La Cabaña Havana

Enrique Borges Rodríguez, worker 20 years Belonging to counter-revolutionary groups Not belonging to revolutionary organizations Manacas, Las Villas

Rolando Bone Trueba, baker 12 years Being in disagreement with the regime Not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña Havana

José Laura Blanco Muñiz, driver 20 years Conspiracy and distributing propaganda Being a practicing Catholic and anti-Communist La Cabaña Havana

Rolando Borges Paz, merchant 20 years Conspiracy Not belonging to revolutionary organizations Teacher training school, Havana

Diosdado Camejo, farmer 30 years Conspiracy Failing to join revolutionary organizations Morón P…son, Camague

Roberto Cardes, worker 15 years Engaging in propaganda against the government Being an active Catholic and not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña Havana

J.I. Carreño, newspaperman 20 years Writing against the government Not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña Havana

Mamerto Casana Pérez, worker 30 years Counter-revolutionary activities Not belonging to revolutionary organizations Melena Camp, Havana

Dr. Pablo Castellanos Caballero, newspaperman and teacher 12 years Conspiracy His anti-government position. He has already served his sentence, but continues in custody and incommunicado La Cabaña Havana

Lutgardo Castellanos Vázquez, student 20 years Giving assistance to armed groups Not cooperating with the authorities Security Camp No. … Manacas, Las Villas

José Luis Colina Alemán, office worker 20 years Anti-state activities Having belonged to the Army before the Revolution Security Camp No. … Manacas, Las Villas

Alberto Cruz Cancio, veterinary surgeon 30 years Rebellion Not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña Havana

Joaquín Chanying González, mechanic 15 years Conspiracy Being in the same place or province where various arrests for political reasons were made Valle … Camp, Havana

Georgina Cid Crespo, Secretary 20 years Conspiring against the security of the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations “Amanacer” Farm Havana

Armando Cubría Ramos, salesman 30 years Conspiring against the State Having belonged to the Army Guanajay Prison

Ernesto de la Fe, newspaperman 15 years Repressing the revolutionary movement Having been a Minister in the Government of General Batista and having been a prominent anti-Communist La Cabaña, Havana

Roberto del Toro Trometa, farmer 20 years Distributing anti-government propaganda Having belonged to the Armed Forces of Cuba before the revolutionary movement “San Severino” Castle Matanzas

Juan Vicente Delgado, soldier 20 years Distributing anti-government propaganda Having belonged to the Armed Forces of Cuba before the revolutionary movement “San Severino” Castle Matanzas

Juan de Dios González Ruiz, worker 20 years Making an attempt on the life of a revolutionary leader Not belonging to pro-government organizations Beniato Prison Oriente Province

Aroldo Hernández Luege, student 30 years Anti-Communist activities among the farmers Being an active Christian and anti-Communist Guanajay Prison Havana

José Antonio Jiménez Caballero, office worker 30 years Anti-Communist activities among the farmers Being an active Christian and anti-Communist Guanajay Prison Havana

Félix Lima, worker 20 years Crimes against the State Not belonging to government Melena Camp, Havana

Fabián Luzardo Díaz worker 12 years Conspiring against the established order He was denounced as a dangerous person and an anti-Communist without any evidence Luis Lazo Pinar del Río

Pelaxo Lasa Parla, electrician 32 years For acts allegedly committed before the Revolution Having belonged to the Army Pinar del Río prison

Raúl Ledón Pérez, worker 20 years Crimes against the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations No. 4 Secur. Camp, Manacas Las Villas

René Macial Matos, missionary 20 years Crimes against the State Being an active Christian La Cabaña, Havana

César Páez Sánchez, soldier 20 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Proposing peaceful changes in the revolutionary line La Cabaña, Havana

Newton Rafael Orihuela del Toro, teacher 15 years Conspiring against the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations Melena Camp, Havana

Arístides Pérez Montañez, merchant 20 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Not cooperating with the government Boniato Prison

Gabriel Lupo Pichardo González, newspaperman 20 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Not cooperating with the government Guanajay Prison, Havana

José Piloto Mora, student 30 years Conspiring against the Cuban State Being a Catholic and not belonging to revolutionary organizations Pinar del Río, Prison

Lino Guillermo Rivero Acosta, pharmacist 10 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations Pinar del Río Prison

Orlando Pérez Oliva, merchant 20 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña, Havana

Pedro Pedraza Portal, driver Indefinite Conspiring against the powers of the State Being an anti-Communist. No evidence that he had tried to leave Cuba illegally was produced Alambradas, Pinar del Río

Rubén Pérez Ríos, worker 20 years Conspiring against the State Not belonging to revolutionary organizations La Cabaña, Havana.

Luis Pérez Días, office worker 20 years Conspiring against the State He was merely suspected of not being in favor of the government. La Cabaña, Havana

José Piloto Mora, student 30 years Conspiring against the State Being a Catholic and not belonging to revolutionary organizations Pinar del Río Prison

Carlos Pons Wottu, office worker 20 years Conspiring against the State Not cooperating with the government Guanajay Prison

Luis María Rodríguez Regueira, student 30 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Considered as a dangerous counter-revolutionary element; he did not belong to any government organization Pinar del R. Prison

Rafael Turino Ibánez worker 20 years Conspiring against the powers of the State Not belonging to any government organization and being a professed Catholic No. 4 Security Camp, Manacas, Las Villas Province


Source: University of Minnesota Human Rights Library, http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/iachr/country-reports/cuba1976-appendix1.html

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7 posted on 02/12/2008 9:53:52 AM PST by OESY
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November 2008 -- Be There!

8 posted on 02/12/2008 9:57:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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Little Green Footballs: Che Guevara Flags in Obama's Houston Office

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9 posted on 02/12/2008 9:59:05 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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Little Green Footballs: Che Guevara Flags in Obama's Houston Office

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10 posted on 02/12/2008 10:00:05 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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Sick. Right here in Houston.


11 posted on 02/12/2008 10:16:23 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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"And most famously, at this year’s Academy Awards ceremony Carlos Santana and Antonio Banderas performed the theme song from The Motorcycle Diaries, and Santana showed up wearing a Che T-shirt and a crucifix. The manifestations of the new cult of Che are everywhere. Once again the myth is firing up people whose causes for the most part represent the exact opposite of what Guevara was."

That's the problem in my view. I've never heard of a documentary or movie or anything like that to tell the truth about that vile man. Everything out of Hollywood, our leftist media and the ideologues we allow to teach our children deifies and romanticizes him.

12 posted on 02/12/2008 10:32:24 AM PST by VR-21
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If some republican volunteers were found with say, a Confederate Flag, hanging in THEIR office....the MSM would destroy the candidacy.


13 posted on 02/12/2008 11:24:11 AM PST by JPJones ("Get away from me you liberal meathead you")
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so to summarize, lefties are hypocrites once again. In other news water is wet.


14 posted on 02/12/2008 11:30:28 AM PST by CharlieOK1 (you get that thing I sent ya?)
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To: weegee

Notice in the second picture her wall is a garage door? And the top one appears to be a paid staffer according to the piece on Faux.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 12:49:46 PM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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Sidebar:

Can you/me start a Texas thread for the upcoming national and local elections March 4th.

I like this guy Pete Olson to take back US Congressional District 22, Tom Delay's old seat currently held by 'rat Nick Lampson.

16 posted on 02/12/2008 1:17:58 PM PST by TexasCajun
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17 posted on 02/12/2008 2:17:12 PM PST by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from Bosnia.)
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To: weegee; Eaker; wardaddy; Jeff Head; SLB; hiredhand; DoughtyOne; river rat; sit-rep; Larry Lucido

Holy Bat Crap !

We are sooo screwed !

BLOAT & Cache for that rainy day folks !


18 posted on 02/12/2008 3:10:01 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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I hear ya.


19 posted on 02/12/2008 3:28:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Travis McGee; weegee

Missed ya on the pings to this crap !

Eaker / weegee....go visit the enemy and see if this crap is for real ! eaker wear yer code pink t-shirt so ya can get in !......;)

Or did you see this stuff in person Weegee ?

Dang !!


20 posted on 02/12/2008 3:33:05 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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