Posted on 03/04/2008 3:50:42 AM PST by Quix
[Quix note: More Links are workable at the website. Some URLS I inserted in the doc below. My usual added paragraphing for added white space and bold and color emphases added.]
A French aviation expert has come forward to reveal his participation in a secret meeting held at the United Nations New York headquarters that discussed the UFO phenomenon from February 12-14. Gilles Lorant is an attaché to the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS- National Center for Scientific Research) which is a government-funded research organization, under the administrative authority of France's Ministry of Research. He is also a member Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense (IHEDN - the French Organization that produced the 1999 COMETA Report). Both CNRS and IHEDN are prestigious scientific organizations in France, and Lorant was invited to attend the UN meetings in a professional capacity. A report released by a French UFO organization (Federation of European Airplane ), of which Lorant is an executive member, contained a summary of the UN meeting where he describes what happened at the meeting.
Lorant revealed that a series of UN meetings were held over a three day period. In the meetings there was discussion of a confidential report, prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the National Guard, concerning the societal impact of UFO sightings. The initial meeting was held on February 12 [2008] and, according to Lorant's report, led to a request by three U.S. Senators for further discussions. Additional meetings were held immediately after on February 13 and 14.
The implication is that three U.S. Senators attended the secret UN meetings. The meetings were very concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals claiming to have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic impact that could lead to recessions in some countries.
The emphasis on possible societal upheaval due to growing UFO sightings was reminiscent of recommendations of the 1953 Robertson Panel, convened by the CIA, which identified adverse public reactions as a major security threat that could be exploited by foreign enemies. The UN discussions appeared to match concerns identified in both the 1953 Robertson Panel and the 1961 Brookings Report to the U.S. Congress, over ramifications of UFO reports and the eventual discovery of extraterrestrial life.
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QX: Wiki Robertson panel ref:
ROBERTSON URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel
Brookings Report ref at ENTERPRISE MISSION:
BROOKINGS URL: http://www.enterprisemission.com/brooking.html
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2009 was raised as the year when an important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. This suggested that the official debunking policy underway since the 1953 Robertson Panel would be abandoned and more serious study of the UFO phenomenon would occur. This indicated an important policy shift where the study of UFO's would be officially encouraged.
However, certain global conditions would have to be met for the official opening. Most important appeared to be social stability in G-8 countries and the maintenance of liberal democratic systems in developing nations. Lorant also suggested that an official opening in attitudes would only occur if UFO sightings continued to occur at present levels.
Lorant's testimony provides independent corroboration for an anonymous source who first came forward on February 12 to reveal to two New York researchers (Clay and Shawn Pickering) that the UN meeting had taken place. The source's testimony was revealed in two articles published by this author on February 13 and 20 , and a follow up article by Robert Morningstar on Feb 25.
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FEB 13 ARTICLE URL:
FEB 13 URL: http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-65.htm
Robert Morningstar article of 25 Feb:
MORNINGSTAR URL: http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0208/un_ufo.html
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Lorant's testimony gives more detailed information of what happened at the meeting, and is consistent with statements from the original source of the UN meeting concerning approximately 40 participants, multiple issues being discussed as well as the UFO phenomenon, and public reactions to increased UFO sightings. Most importantly, Lorant provides insight into reasons for a significant change in official public policy towards the UFO phenomenon.
The reported results of the UN meetings indicate agreement was reached for an international strategy to more seriously study the UFO phenomenon in a manner that maintains present levels of social stability. This raises the possibility that those presenting information on UFOs/extraterrestrial life deemed to threaten national stability or financial systems, would receive special attention by national security agencies.
The meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from 'debunking' to 'openness' concerning UFO's would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO phenomenon. However, those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be targeted as charlatans. The UN meeting thereby suggested continuation of policies aimed at exploiting divisions in the UFO community between researchers advocating a strictly scientific study of the UFO phenomenon, and those wishing to discuss testimonies/documentation concerning extraterrestrial life visiting Earth. An article exposing "Galactic COINTELPRO" is available here.
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GALACTIC COINTELPRO ARTICLE:
COINTELPRO URL: http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-3-Salla.htm
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Lorant's testimony finally suggests that governments are being driven to a more open approach to the UFO phenomenon due to the recent increase sightings that are projected to continue well into 2009. What follows is a summary report of the UN meetings based on Lorant's testimony that appears in a newsletter of the FEA and is available in the original French. [Please click the link at the end of this paragraph at the original website, Qx]
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D
Kona, Hawaii 03/01/08
www.Exopolitics.Org
[Acknowledgements] I thank Didier de Plaige for his kind assistance in helping confirm background information about Gilles Lorant, and for first revealing on his blogsite details about Lorant who at the time requested anonymity through a mutual acquaintance of de Plaige. I also thank Jean-Luc Bozzoli, Victor Viggiani and others for their assistance in translating the original French document.
Newsletter No. 4 of the F.E.A, 25.02.2008
Posted by Jean-Jacques Yvars
Dear Friends,
For strictly professional reasons and by coincidence, an active member of the FEA was invited to the UN in New York in the week starting February 11, 2008. This person took part in the development of discussions on the subject of UFOs, after the meeting of February 12. These discussions at the United Nations, brought forth further deliberations during three conferences held behind closed doors on 13 and 14 February, to which our member had the honor and pleasure to attend.
Here is a summary of the minutes that Mr. Gilles Lorant, invited to the meetings, kindly shared with us about what was said at the United Nations in New York:
On 12 February, the U.S. Air Force and the National Guard would [SIC] actually presented a report on the subject of UFOs and the impact of sightings on many communities in the United States. Since this report was considered important for industrialized countries, representatives from several countries were invited to attend. Then, at the request of three United States Senators, a series of three meetings took place in the [two] following days, in the presence of forty representatives from twenty-eight member countries, including the Vatican (two countries did not send representatives). On both days, the subject of UFO's was discussed, for no more than an hour and a half, as one of the causes of social upheaval of a country, due to the high probability of economic recession resulting from the speeches of 'contactees', charlatans, religious [figures], some scientists and prophecies. Sightings of UFOs increase sharply the risk of social unrest threatening the political systems of several emerging democracies.
According to Mr. Gilles Lorant, what was discussed was an opening in official attitudes when publicly considering, in future, how to treat the UFO phenomenon. An official opening to be held under two conditions:
1) Until the end of 2009, that social peace in the G8 countries is guaranteed around the liberal democratic model (US version)
2) That by the end of 2009, the annoying manifestations of our "neighbors" continue to exist throughout the world.
Furthermore, also discussed was what position to adopt in case a non-aligned country decided to get ahead of the countries present at this meeting with the "officialization" of the subject. The atmosphere was rather serious, according to Mr. Lorant, the participants were, in fact, cognizant of the presence of "our neighbors" in our environment.
Conclusion:
The suggestion agreed upon at the United Nations by the representatives of the 28 nations, in the course of these exchanges, is of paramount importance for public recognition of the topic. The official treatment of information relating to UFOs could be a turning point at the international level, if the circumstances remain favorable. The coming years could show a surprising evolution (development) of communications on the subject on the part of governments.
[Note: Original French Version available online at F.E.A. website and has also been archived here]
[Update, March 02, 2008- The above English translation was slightly modified to better clarify key passages after further consultation. The see the original English translation, click here. ] [Qx: Click at original website]
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Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off this ping list.
I’m expecting the activity on this list to pick up as the increase in dramatic sightings and public disclosures of significant info continues to increase.
Not sure. Bump.
What are you not sure about?
Ping to added friends . . .
The UFO’s
I just really want to see one! I love the topic.
Projected to continue?
Forget the UFOs, they’re more worried about losing control of the sheep.
You can bet there would be a major uproars from religious circles but, whether that results in mass hysteria and panic remains to be seen.
I’d like to give, at least the folks in modern countries, more credit regarding their sensibility.
Jacques Chirac was a Nephilim, I knew it all along!
Too many more like that and it gets out of control.
So look with care
For the shape of a square...
“Ice cream Ice cream!!”
Fresh from Shepherdsville TX, the crack team of AFOSI investigators arrives to set the record straight:
"Distinguished Representatives of the UN, all this hullabaloo is just a lotta nonsense about swamp gas, migrating geese, mass delusions and Top-Secret ballons 'n stuff. Nothin' to any of it at all. Now,if you'll please excuse us, we have to go track down 10 rogue F-16's flying around without flight plans."
As an AF vet, I gotta be fair - they have to salute the flag and do the silly sometimes, but I wish they'd make up some better stories.
URL: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-66.htm
Confirmation & Update on Secret United Nations Meeting Discussing UFOs & Extraterrestrial Life
I recently circulated an article describing a secret meeting that allegedly occurred at the New York office of the United Nations discussing UFOs/extraterrestrial life.
The confidential source (A) for the meeting is presently working as a member of the diplomatic community who relayed this information to two New York based researchers, Shawn and Clay Pickering. I am pleased to announce that I have received independent confirmation that the alleged meeting did occur on the morning of February 12, 2008 as Clay's and Shawn's source claimed.
I was also given information by an independent source (B), who I believe is very reliable, on what transpired at the meeting. It was claimed that a document had been circulated at the meeting, and was now being relayed to key ministries of many nations for further study and comments.
I have yet to witness the document which allegedly refers to an offer by extraterrestrials to help prepare humanity for the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. The meeting also apparently discussed how the UN was being encouraged to take a proactive stand on the release of secret technologies that will enable the development of free energy.
The date 2013 was given as the time when extraterrestrials would unambiguously appear. This was consistent with the date given in my earlier article. I will share more information on the alleged document circulated at the UN meeting and the independent source (B) confirming the meeting in my next communication on this unfolding UN initiative on UFOs/extraterrestrial life.
What follows next is a report of a further meeting between Clay and Shawn Pickering and their confidential source (A) regarding the UN meeting on UFOs held on the morning of February 12, 2008.
They pointed out that the "unambiguous showing up" of extraterrestrial life - sitting over major cities - would occur in 2017, rather than 2013 as described in the earlier article. The role of religion and population growth was also allegedly discussed, and appeared to raise many issues at the meeting, especially for India.
A significant descriptive term chosen by source A for the extraterrestrials that would show up in 2017 was "The Controllers." Such a term has clear psychological connotations and was chosen to have a particular effect on the target audience - both UN member states in attendance and the general public to which the information was being leaked. This is a clue that source A is conveying information that has been designed to trigger a certain psychological reaction that influences how issues are framed and discussed.
Another aspect of the following report is that it was claimed that India would have a difficult time processing disclosure of extraterrestrial life, possibly leading to the elimination of Hinduism. This appears inconsistent with India's long tradition of advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life in its Vedic texts, and multiplicity of gods.
If, as the confidential source claims, that Roman Catholics will have an easier time with disclosure due to the belief of "three Gods in one", so too might a religion like Hinduism which has a multiplicity of gods and is very eclectic.
I believe that the mention of India as a country that might experience disclosure problems is likely a fabrication intended to confuse disclosure related issues. When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, "The Controllers" designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with expertise in psychological operations cannot be discounted.
In the earlier message (February 13), Clay's and Shawn's confidential source (A) referred to an Admiral who was the ultimate authority for disclosure of the UN meeting to UFO/exopolitical community. Is this evidence that the Office of Naval Investigations is involved in the UFO disclosure initiative at the UN, or at least filtering information to be released to the UN and general public?
Most interesting for me was contrasting the agenda of the meeting revealed by Clay's and Shawn's confidential source (A) , and what I had been told by my independent source (B) who confirmed the UN meeting had occurred. Source B focused on issues concerning the release of restricted technologies for new energy sources and a document for feedback, while source A focused on population growth and religion. Curiously, source A did not mention any document being circulated to UN member states for feedback.
In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial. What transpired at the meeting itself appears to differ according to the confidential source (A) Clay and Shawn have cited, and the independent source (B) used to confirm the meeting. The emergence of the alleged document circulated at the meeting and relayed to key ministries of other nations will help considerably in clarifying what was discussed and the accuracy of these respective sources.
The possible role of the Office of Naval Intelligence in filtering information that is being related through source A is something that cannot be discounted when considering what was specifically discussed at the UN meeting. I look forward to reviewing any documents circulated at the meeting to get a better idea of the agenda issues discussed involving the role the UN would play in public disclosure of extraterrestrial life.
Aloha,
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D Kona, Hawaii
2/20/08
----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn and Clay xxx@yahoo.com
To: drsalla@exopolitics.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM
Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN
Dear Michael,
This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM.
We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008. Our source stated the following:
1) The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.
2) The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.
3) Security around the meeting was intense.
4) Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.
5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.
6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.
7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table."
This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.
8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand.
Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.
9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.
10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.
11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.
12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.
13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."
14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated, " The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch.
The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval.
> The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. [Quix: READ HERE THE BIBLICAL GLOBAL GOVERNMENT--NWO] However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."
Clay and Shawn Pickering
I think you’ll be seeing more than you ever want to see.
We shall see.
The Biblical prophecy fulfillments progress increasingly rapidly.
LOL.
He was certainly a FALLEN ‘angel.’
Evidently they realize that.
Yep! Similar to predicting Global Warming will raise sea levels 20 feet suddenly.
but I wish they’d make up some better stories.
= =
Indeed.
Like “Oh, it was dummies used in Mogul balloon flights . . . “ When the dummies weren’t used until 5 years AFTER Roswell.
Idiots.
Stay tuned.
Cluelessness has an increasingly shorter half-life.
If there is going to be a serious study, keep it out of the U.N.
The U.N. only wants the $$$$.

I guess that classifies you quite clearly amongst the poorly informed naysayers?
The studies have been done and are ongoing.
This is just theater setting the stage for global manipulations toward the global government—in the reasonably shortest time etc.
If Shrillery gets in, she’ll do everything she can to rush faster toward that goal—though she’s likely a relatively low level stooge.
Ditto Obumma.
Ditto McChurian.
Ditto all the also rans that have fallen by the wayside. I sadly increasingly think, including Fred Thompson.
OK.
If this is what the antichrist’s delusion is going to be, it is simply ridiculous to imagine the world falling for it. Aliens. Give me a break. Didn’t this fad go out in the 80s? Is this really the best the fallen angels can come up with? The world goes out on a boring, tired, seen-it-a-million-times-before, two dollar sci-fi cliché? Praise God for the rapture, I’ve seen this bad movie enough times.
LOL.
Yeah, this is evidently the script. Has been obvious to some of us for decades. More and more details emerge over time . . . now seemingly every week.
Is it too soon to cast my vote against Earth membership in The Federation of Planets?
14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated, "The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch."More over the top nut case bigotry against the Catholic Church.
The elite jerks thinking they are in control of the planet have already done so, evidently.
As I indicated above . . . the whole sorry list of 12 or 16 or whatever it used to be were ALL globalists.
Even Fred Thompson was a member of the CFR.
Given certain . . . uhhh . . . givens . . .
I consider it highly likely that you are not aware that . . .
RC’s and Jews are VERY underrepresented in abduction statistics.
I once belonged to a church that began to see demons under every chair and every secular activity.
However it is often true that many things are not as they seem.
Please avoid pondering that too long. I wouldn’t want to do toooo much injury to sensibilities that see “bigotry” under every rock and Protty word.
OFF TOPIC:
His request approved, the photographer used a cell phone to call the local airport to charter a flight. He was told a twin engine plane would be waiting for him at the airport.***
** Arriving at the airfield, he spotted a plane warming up outside a hangar. He jumped in with his bag, slammed the door shut, and shouted, ‘Let’s go’. The pilot taxied out, swung the plane into the wind and took off.**
** Once in the air, the photographer instructed the pilot, ‘Fly over the valley and make low passes so I can take pictures of the fires on the hillsides.’ ***
**’Why?’ asked the pilot.***
** ‘Because I’m a photographer for Fox Cable News,’ he responded. ‘And I need to get some close up shots.’**
** The pilot was strangely silent for a moment, finally he stammered, ‘So, what you’re telling me, is you’re NOT my flight instructor?’ ***
This reads like the guy who put the ad in a paper looking for someone to time travel with him and to bring guns and ammo.
Too far fetched for my taste.
The date of 2013 would flow easier with the previous stories of the calender ending in December of 2012.
Thanks for the ping!
ping
I still would like to know the names of the 3 US Senators, as well the name of the Vatican envoy that are said to have participated.
This business of singling out true Christians from non trinitarians without naming them is a neat thing, as well.
***RCs and Jews are VERY underrepresented in abduction statistics.***
Or just more mentally stable and theologically grounded.
Yet Nostradamus is so on spot?
In retrospect. ;-D
Stay tuned.
Sounds like you have not studied the topic since 1962 nor had a close relative work in the field.
Not the Discovery Channel - this stuff is ‘History’ Channel material =)
I don’t recall.
Part of the mass of data in my noggin.
IIRC, I came across that convincing tidbit about 8-16 years ago.
Such stats are very hard to find.
Besides, if I handed . . . a doc with National Geographic quality pics . . . signed in blood by all the RELIGIOUS, political, corporate, military . . . leaders known and respected . . .
I am skeptical it would influence toward belief much at all.
Perhaps IF a UFO picked one up and kicked one out on the moon with a tent and a few day’s oxygen and food . . . PERHAPS then some naysayers would begin to believe.
The MAYAN Calendar ends at 2012.
Many speculations and noises are abroad about what that means.
Some get quite bleak when writing about it.
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