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I am a Liberal. Before you BAN me, please read.

Posted on 03/19/2008 12:54:29 AM PDT by pdxliberal

Edited on 03/19/2008 12:57:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I was BANNED from the Democratic Underground (DU) today.

I was banned for posting the following thread:

Subject: WOW!!! Sen. Obama is playing us like a fiddle!

Text: Sen. Obama's team set up this whole Race debacle from the get go, just so that he would have the stage set for this absolutely stirring speech on race relations. I have never seen the race card played so brilliantly in all the history of American politics. BRILLIANT!!!!

If the media gives this speech as much play as the racist Rev. Wright issue, and they will...he will find the new momentum he needs to secure the popular vote in the dem primary, no doubt. This man may even be our next POTUS, judging by the brilliant political savvy his team is displaying and his heaping helping of charisma, he is looking very very good!

Can any of you see this backfiring? I simply can not.

WOW!!!

After being referred to as a "troll freeper," I wanted to join this forum as a liberal and see what it is you folks are all about. So, here I am, letting you conservatives know that there are liberals being banned by the [expletive deleted] from Liberal forums because we do NOT agree with the path Sen. Obama et al. have chosen. I am not the only one that has been banned for speaking out against these race card tactics.

Many of us are disgusted.

I'm sure it will not be long before I'm banned here too, but I will play by your rules until then.

Cheers,

Liberal from Portland


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KEYWORDS: ibtz; nobama; obama; trolltimer; wright
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To: pdxliberal

101 posted on 03/19/2008 12:52:58 PM PDT by evets
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To: a_chronic_whiner

Juvenile - thy name IS “liberal”.

By the way, how can Authoritarian Secular Socialists who only value the one freedom of sticking your jubblies wherever you want with no consequences and deny all other individual freedoms,

call themselves “liberal”?


102 posted on 03/19/2008 12:53:01 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pdxliberal

I always like to ask folks of your ilk a simple philosophical question. By what right does one man (or men) pilfer money from an individual (a representation of his life) at the point of a gun and redistribute that money to others. Please answer without using the phrase “common good” or “common welfare”.


103 posted on 03/19/2008 12:55:11 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome to FreeRepublic!

Lots of good people here, and a lots of morons too. I’ll tell you this much, however - some of the brightest people I’ve ever encountered are herein.

You’re being completely up front, and for me, that’s all you need.

I hope you find a home here!


104 posted on 03/19/2008 12:55:50 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: a_chronic_whiner

I posted my opinion in the “Primaries” topic where it is acceptable to debate and forcefully support an opinion on any candidate running for Democratic support.

I broke no rules.

The moderator decided to side with Sen. Obama supporters and assume that I am some kind of conservative operative attempting to divide and conquer.

Laughable. It does however sadden me that DU is apparently run by idiots.


105 posted on 03/19/2008 12:55:55 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I almost made moderator a couple of times

You must have a SEVERELY foul mouth...

106 posted on 03/19/2008 12:56:20 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pdxliberal
It does however sadden me that DU is apparently run by idiots.

Apparently?

107 posted on 03/19/2008 12:57:17 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: nikos1121

Experience with the political machine in D.C. That is the difference between Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama. There are some other minor differences, but the major difference between the two boils down to experience, pragmatism, and a near centrist ability to compromise in order to make things happen.

Between the two candidates, I would say that Sen. Clinton will be a much more difficult challenge for conservatives to keep from the White House.

You folks will have no problem defeating Sen. Obama come General Election time.


108 posted on 03/19/2008 1:01:32 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: Stoat

Thank you for the welcome.

Although I honestly wonder how long you will feel that way.

There are many points on which we would agree, but many more in which we will vehemently disagree.

However, I do have an open mind to reason. Reason is one of my “religious” tenets and is partially that which I believe makes us divine in essence.


109 posted on 03/19/2008 1:05:06 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: pdxliberal

Why are you a liberal?


110 posted on 03/19/2008 1:05:10 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: pdxliberal

The conservatives will rally to beat Hillary.


111 posted on 03/19/2008 1:05:45 PM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm voting for McCain...and fixin' to get excited about it.:)
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome aboard! I think as long as you present reasoned arguments you should have no problems here, and may spice up the debate


112 posted on 03/19/2008 1:09:05 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: pdxliberal
Well, let's see, where to start?

DU thought you were a troll freeper ... but it would appear that you are actually a FReeper troll. Hit-n-run posting is a sure sign of a troll and that is exactly what you've done up to this point. Jump back in and answer some of the comments you've attracted to dispell that notion.

I have no say whatsoever about whether or not you get to stick around FR, but it is a little disturbing to me that we might actually want the rejects from DU. The ones they keep around are bad enough. BTW, how long were you a member in good standing at DU?

Anywho, welcome and enjoy your stay, however brief or long. It is my sincere hope that you will actually learn something of conservative values and abandon the dark side.

113 posted on 03/19/2008 1:10:06 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: pdxliberal
Maybe you would be interested in reading an excerpt of the writings of James Cone, the founder of Black Liberation, whom the Rev Jeremiah Wright great admires and emulates. Black Liberation is just a euphemism for Black Power, it's just substituting "Progressive" for "Socialist".

“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.”

“The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.”

“The time has come for white America to be silent and listen to black people.”

“All white men are responsible for white oppression. ”

“Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil.’” “An

y advice from whites to blacks on how to deal with white oppression is automatically under suspicion as a clever device to further enslavement.”

“Black suffering is getting worse, not better. . . . White supremacy is so clever and evasive that we can hardly name it.”

“What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. ”

” Jesus Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.”

114 posted on 03/19/2008 1:12:29 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: pdxliberal

Okay, I refreshed my page and you have responded. Good. You are no longer to be considered a trollish thang.


115 posted on 03/19/2008 1:12:33 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: pdxliberal
Welcome to Free Republic. Here are some suggestions:

Post often so we get to know you. We don't mind self-described liberals. We just want honest discussion with out bashing and profanity.

When the next political issue comes up in the news, find the FR thread for it and then find the DU thread (you can still read the posts even after you are banned -- ask me how I know.)

Compare these threads and look for evidence of intelligent discussion, clear-minded reasoning, factual premises, etc. I am not saying you won't ever find that on a DU thread, but I guarantee you will find it more often here on FR.

Then think about how much you learned from each thread and which thread caused you to think more deeply.

You will soon realize you learn more here and you will come to respect the company of FReepers.

See you around...

116 posted on 03/19/2008 1:32:17 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: Arrowhead1952

Did you hear Rush on Tuesday? A black caller said he had been discriminated against in 1966, when he was 16..... a white classmate was paid $1.25 an hour, doing the same job he did for $1.00?

My husband, who is the same age, and white, figures we must be owed reparations or something.

He only earned .90c and hour in’66.


117 posted on 03/19/2008 1:32:29 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Sherman Logan
Curious. Do you mean the Rev is racist, or that those who brought up the issue are racist? The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is most certainly a racist. Hence I have developed the reasonable habit of ascribing his title and name with the adjectival descriptor, "racist." The racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I am one of those liberals that *strongly* believes we can not move beyond race until we disavow ALL racism and put a stop to racially dual language no matter who it is the spews it. It can not be any more acceptable for the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright to incite racially disharmony, sow resentment & anger, and stir racial prejudice from the pulpit than it would be for some racist Rev. of the Aryan Brotherhood. We do indeed need to come together as people and disavow those in our community that strengthen the racial divide. We definitely should not be sitting for 20 years in the pews donating time, money, and favor to a racist Pastor and church with racist dogma, and *then* expect to be the postmodern leader and POTUS who brings us together and moves us beyond. This would be ridiculously hypocritical. I want to believe this is possible. I want to believe that we can finally move beyond race. I want to believe that we can finally be free of people like the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I would love the idea that the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright could not spew his racist vitriol unless secluded in a compound in Northern Idaho somewhere unknown. I suppose that I just can not overcome the feeling of hypocrisy that exudes this whole campaign being run by Sen. Obama. It just reeks. Perhaps I have too sensitive a nose for a liberal.
118 posted on 03/19/2008 1:36:12 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: envisio

envisio
Since Mar 7, 2008

You’ve lasted 12 days here.


119 posted on 03/19/2008 1:40:26 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Heck, in 1966, I was working on our farm and didn’t work for pay. We did have a roof over our heads, beds to sleep in and something to eat. That was just daily life for farm kids.


120 posted on 03/19/2008 1:42:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (His middle name is NOT Hussein for being a Christian.)
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