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To: Sherman Logan

Curious. Do you mean the Rev is racist, or that those who brought up the issue are racist?

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is most certainly a racist. Hence I have developed the reasonable habit of ascribing his title and name with the adjectival descriptor, "racist."

The racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

I am one of those liberals that *strongly* believes we can not move beyond race until we disavow ALL racism and put a stop to racially dual language no matter who it is the spews it. It can not be any more acceptable for the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright to incite racial disharmony, sow resentment & anger, and stir racial prejudice from the pulpit than it would be for some racist Rev. of the Aryan Brotherhood.

We do indeed need to come together as people and disavow those in our community that strengthen the racial divide. We definitely should not be sitting for 20 years in the pews donating time, money, and favor to a racist Pastor and church with racist dogma, and *then* expect to be the postmodern leader and POTUS who brings us together and moves us beyond. This would be ridiculously hypocritical.

I want to believe this is possible. I want to believe that we can finally move beyond race. I want to believe that we can finally be free of people like the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I would love the idea that the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright could not spew his racist vitriol unless secluded in a compound in Northern Idaho somewhere.

I suppose that I just can not overcome the feeling of hypocrisy that exudes this whole campaign being run by Sen. Obama. It just reeks. Perhaps I have too sensitive a nose for a liberal.

123 posted on 03/19/2008 1:45:21 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: pdxliberal
It just reeks. Perhaps I have too sensitive a nose for a liberal.

This suggests that you will not remain a liberal insofar as your conservative pheromones have developed sufficiently to discern such things.

131 posted on 03/19/2008 1:53:09 PM PDT by pilipo (I am officially a man without a country.)
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To: pdxliberal

The truth is the truth; it is not relative. We may have differing perspectives and conclusions, but that’s the essence of debate.

I perceive that you were excluded from debating because you pointed to the truth.

There may be plenty of things to annoy you here, but everyone benefits from honesty and civil debate.

Welcome aboard.


143 posted on 03/19/2008 2:07:34 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: pdxliberal
I want to believe that we can finally be free of people like the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

The thing is, though, that as Americans we must be willing to defend the right of others to say and believe what they wish, even when they are spewing that which is most disagreeable.

It is possible to disavow an idea while still defending the right of (a jackass) to say it.

You are going to become a real favorite around here. Keep posting. It won't be long before you ask for your nick to be changed.

145 posted on 03/19/2008 2:09:08 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: pdxliberal
I want to believe that we can finally move beyond race.

Two words: affirmative action. What do liberals usually think of affirmative action?

151 posted on 03/19/2008 2:19:51 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: pdxliberal
I am one of those liberals that *strongly* believes we can not move beyond race until we disavow ALL racism and put a stop to racially dual language no matter who it is the spews it. It can not be any more acceptable for the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright to incite racial disharmony, sow resentment & anger, and stir racial prejudice from the pulpit than it would be for some racist Rev. of the Aryan Brotherhood.

I have no problem with any of that. Would you also agree that differential treatment by race ("affirmative action" and so on) also exerts a divisive force by creating resentment among whites and cheapening the achievements of blacks?

201 posted on 03/19/2008 5:58:32 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? See ToSetTheRecordStraight.com - TSTRS.com for short)
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To: pdxliberal
I want to believe that we can finally be free of people like the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

I would love the idea that the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright could not spew his racist vitriol unless secluded in a compound in Northern Idaho somewhere.

It's not really a bad thing when we hear idiots like (un)rev Wright and Fred Phelps spew their hate. When they do it they expose themselves for what they are.

207 posted on 03/19/2008 6:37:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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