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To: TruthConquers
"I also find it odd that in general, the attitude of evo’s tends to be that the creationists are the problem when it comes to science education. I feel that the environuts are the real problem."

Evolution proponents generally don't have a quarrel with creationists. We only have a problem with ID proponents attempting to distort the methods of science in order to force it to accommodate something distinctly non-scientific. That’s explained pretty well in the Talk Design FAQ, starting with the 3rd one down.

I don’t know which is worse, global warming activists politicising scientific results or of ID activists distorting scientific methods, but one does not negate the effects of the other.

167 posted on 04/18/2008 9:01:46 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: elfman2

I don’t expect that either position would negate anything.

I only point out that the gobul warming is very dangerous, because it is killing people, and killing our economy.

Disagreements about scientific methods can be a valid argument. I am certain disputes about methodology has been with science from the beginning. It is how science got here in the first place. But the material view is a distortion of life, love and what makes us human. Any world view the ignores part of what life is about, is a distortion, and not complete.

Disagreements about the politicizing of hand picked facts, the way environuts do, has nothing to do with science at all. Keeping models that predictions are based on secret is not science either. There is not any science going on in gobul warming at all. That is what I find so amazing.

Science can not and will never explain human life as it is lived, experienced, felt and ends in death. Science does not answer all questions, all important questions that any reasonable person ponders. Materialists give the impression, and some endorse, that only material things matter, that anything outside of materials things become unscientific, and unimportant to the questions that people ask. The question of origins is central to that building of a worldview. And there is nothing scientific about it. But the materialists seek to discredit ANYTHING that is not material. That is disturbing.


175 posted on 04/18/2008 10:59:57 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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