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To: processing please hold

That doesn’t compute to someone with a completely materialist view of the existance.

The universe includes everything material.
It had a beginning, and the big bang still resonates to prove it.
Anything that has a beginning has a cause.
That cause must be external or transcendent to the caused.


178 posted on 04/18/2008 11:20:20 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
It had a beginning, and the big bang still resonates to prove it.

Scientist cannot get beyond what was before the big bang. I believe God is the Cosmic Singularity, which is why scientist have hit a brick wall when trying to discover what "WAS" before the big bang.

180 posted on 04/18/2008 11:43:16 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: MrB
Anything that has a beginning has a cause.

Sorry, I didn't address this.

God IS the beginning. He didn't come from anywhere, he was always there.

Either one believes this or they don't.

181 posted on 04/18/2008 11:46:49 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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