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To: PeterFinn

Ben is one of the good guys!

He’s not pushing Creation. He’s highligting the arrogant BIAS of those that don’t agree with other views. I know of MANY going to see this movie. It pisses the godless liberals off to be EXPOSED like this.


6 posted on 04/17/2008 10:59:41 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

As we’re seeing in the dhimmirat primaries, when leftists are exposed, they are defeated.

THIS is why they hate the light of a documentary like this being shined on them.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 11:01:17 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: nmh
He’s not pushing Creation. He’s highligting the arrogant BIAS of those that don’t agree with other views.

You know it, I know it, bet the media will say different.
26 posted on 04/17/2008 11:11:15 AM PDT by smug (smug for President; Your only real hope)
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To: nmh

You are absolutely correct. This movie (I hope to see it soon, but I don’t know if it is even playing around here) is not about evolution so much as it is about bias and inhibiting free speech on college campuses, where, if anywhere speech should be at its freest.

As for the scientists who say they thought they were being filmed for another movie, are they saying that they would have changed their answers (i.e., lied) if they knew the true reason for the film?

I have no real interest in seeing a film that makes a scientific or even a faith-based assessment of evolutionary theory. I wouldn’t mind seeing a film about a scientific basis for the origins of life, but I doubt THAT movie will be made anytime soon.

This film could be about any number of forbidden areas of speech and belief at our so-called liberal arts colleges and universities.


56 posted on 04/17/2008 11:40:19 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: nmh
Ben is one of the good guys!

That's what I've always thought. That's why it's sickening -- makes me feel literally ill -- to see him directly involved in these lies.

Did you even read the article? Stein, and the producers, lied again and again. Stein effectively lied -- given the natural expectation one has of a documentary film, even one that uses humor -- with that staged lecture, apparently presented as a real one. The producers lied to the interviewees about the name and the intent of the film. Then they lied again after the film was made -- and I've heard Stein himself repeat this lie in interviews -- about the name and intent of the film changing during it's production.

And those three particular lies are not even the beginning of it. The whole "expelled" premise is a lie. The claims, in most if not all cases, of persecution by the antievolution participants -- as documented here in the case of Sternberg, who was never "fired" from anything -- are bogus.

119 posted on 04/17/2008 4:27:11 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: nmh

It seems to be in a lot of theaters to...have tons playing it around here unlike most documentaries.


145 posted on 04/17/2008 9:37:00 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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