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I totally question whether a Golden Retriever is smarter than a Labrador Retriever or makes the top 10 list at all.

Video of the program.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3998170n?source=search_video

1 posted on 04/28/2008 1:06:12 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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I resent the suggestion that my Beagle is not highly intelligent.


101 posted on 04/28/2008 1:59:15 PM PDT by keat (What I wouldn't give for a nice pair of Moccasocks.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Off topic a little but funny...E-mail I received a few days ago.

The Purina Diet.

-——When someone asks you a dumb question wouldn’t you like to respond like
this?.....

Yesterday I was buying a large bag of Purina dog chow at Wal-Mart for Athena the wonder dog and was about to check out. A woman behind me
asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant? So since
I’m retired, with little to do, on impulse, I told her that no, I didn’t
have a dog, and that I was starting the Purina Diet again.

Although I probably shouldn’t, because I’d ended up in the hospital last
time, but that I’d lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care
ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.

I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that
it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply
eat one or two every time you feel hungry and that the food is
nutritionally comple te so I was going to try it again. (I have to
mention here that practically everyone in the line was by now enthralled
with my story.)

Horrified , she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the dog
food poisoned me. I told her no; I stepped off a curb to sniff an Irish
Setter’s ass and a car hit us both.

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack, he was
laughing so hard!

WAL-MART won’t let me shop there anymore.


106 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:37 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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I’ve owned two and both are exceptionally smart animals. In fact, anytime I meet other dogs I’m always profoundly grateful that my choice was the Golden breed. Of course, good owners usually have a lot to do with the outcome of the animal, too...


111 posted on 04/28/2008 2:06:20 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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I agree. My golden is the dumbest dog, by far, of all the dogs I have ever owned.

My dachshunds on the other hand, have all been incredibly smart.

116 posted on 04/28/2008 2:10:42 PM PDT by ZGuy
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The Golden made the list twice -- they put in a photo of a Golden (with pup) as a Labrador!

The heads are very different (although there's some variation in the breeds). Also, look at the long hair on the chest and the legs. And the Golden puppy fluff on the pup.


117 posted on 04/28/2008 2:15:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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They are assessing trainability, not intelligence. My much beloved Chow Chow was the most intelligent animal I have ever known, but quite stubborn. Her understanding of vocabulary, body language, judge of character, and just being able to read my mind were unbelievable. She could do things on a whim, with no training... When I would get home late, she would shake my socks around. One time, under my breath, I commented in an even conversational tone, “Why don’t you do something useful like get my pajamas?” She came back with my pajamas in her mouth. The amazing thing is I could never even train her to fetch a toy.

She made up her mind to just give up after being diagnosed with terminal cancer. The cancer had already spread, and after five days she wouldn’t eat or drink anymore. I had a very quiet talk with her, explaining that one of the things I loved and respected most about her was her love of life and indomitable spirit— I asked her to please, just for me, fight this thing to the end since a vaccine for her type of cancer was due out in weeks to months. She understood, gave me this look, like “Okay. I’ll fight it to the end. For you.” She begin to eat and drink moments later, and even to the last day of her life she fought with everything she had. It is coming up on a year now since I lost her, and not a day goes by that I don’t think of how much I loved that little bear, or how much I miss her.


118 posted on 04/28/2008 2:15:35 PM PDT by LambSlave
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English Mastiff’s aren’t stupid at all. They are lazy. That isn’t the same thing.
My dog knows when my wife gets out of bed he can climb up and sleep with me. (I work shift work.) When she is home he sleeps in his dog bed. He just has little interest in exerting himself for anything other than hanging around me.
I think they forgot what the dogs were designed for.


120 posted on 04/28/2008 2:17:24 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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Depends on the Golden.

Both Goldens and Labs have split up into show type dogs and field type dogs.

The field types of both breeds have TONS of brains but diverge from the show standard in the looks department. The field Labs are rangy and tall on their legs, more like hounds, and the field Goldens have almost no coat.

The show breeders don't breed for brains, so that's what they DON'T necessarily get. They may get it by accident, but that's not what they're aiming at.

So you may get a smart show Lab or Golden, but if you want a better chance of a dog with brains, you're better off going for the field dogs.

122 posted on 04/28/2008 2:19:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Both the smartest dog and the dumbest dog I have ever had were from the same litter. There mother was a cockapoo. The smart one Peter looked like a German Shepard puppy his entire life. He would carry the cats kittens around for her. Dum Dumb was black and looked like a fuzzy mop. If you went behind the Christmas tree and called him would look at the tree then run away roll on the floor and pee on him self.
125 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (The afternoonThomasThomas wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind and another ....")
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I can't speak to the purebreds listed....but for the six dumbest animals, I would vote for the 6 (yep....six) dogs that my nextdoor neighbor has.

I can't even walk around in my own backyard without the @$#@%^%#&&% things barking at me.

I will admit, though, that all of the dogs individually are smarter than my neighbor. So I guess they've got that going for them.

129 posted on 04/28/2008 2:27:21 PM PDT by wbill
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I can't speak to the purebreds listed....but for the six dumbest animals, I would vote for the 6 (yep....six) dogs that my nextdoor neighbor has.

I can't even walk around in my own backyard without the @$#@%^%#&&% things barking at me.

I will admit, though, that all of the dogs individually are smarter than my neighbor. So I guess they've got that going for them.

130 posted on 04/28/2008 2:27:37 PM PDT by wbill
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Parents have a Border Collie - VERY SMART!

Frankly I love all that are listed.


137 posted on 04/28/2008 2:38:10 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Most intellegent dog we ever owned was a toy poodle. She would put her paw on you leg when traveling to let you know, it is time to pee and NOW.

Of all the animals we raised as kids, she was the momma to all of them.

I could go on and on, but poodles definately earned their top position and probable give the worthy Border a good run for their money...

138 posted on 04/28/2008 2:39:41 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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Basenji’s stupid? If your idea of dog intelligence is a slavish slurping furbag, I guess so.

Mine are brilliant dogs, they just don’t obey for the heck of it. They’ve survived for thousands of years in the Congo, used for hunting small game. In that environment smarts are more important than slipper fetching, afterall you’re in competition with leopards, lions, cape dogs, hyenas... etc...

Plus, the neighbor’s love them because they don’t bark.

Face it... if it isn’t a Basenji it’s just a DOG.


157 posted on 04/28/2008 3:23:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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No clue as to this dog's intelligence, just thought it was a cool photo:


158 posted on 04/28/2008 3:28:08 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: onedoug

Boarder Collie #1


162 posted on 04/28/2008 3:43:36 PM PDT by windcliff
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I’ve never had a dog, but I’ve had quite a few friends and neighbors who had dogs, and I have to more or less agree with the list. Although my all-over favorite dog (or dogs) is the litter of Golden-Labradoodle puppies my neighbors’ dog had one summer... they were so much fun!


163 posted on 04/28/2008 3:47:47 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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I doubt the rankings very much. Basenjis are incredibly clever and seem to spend most of their time outsmarting their owners.

Some dogs are amazingly intelligent and didn’t make the list.


164 posted on 04/28/2008 3:49:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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Some of the smartest dogs I've met were Norweigian Elkhounds.

I was at a friend's house, and they had two of them. They distrusted me at first as watchdogs should, and then it became "trust but verify". I was literally watched the entire time by one of them to make sure I was good people. Even if it was a "tailing" distance, it was there. It wasn't an unfriendly watch, just good situational awareness.

They are very manipulative as well. After I was petting one of them, she barked. I made the mistake of responding to the bark.

I wouldn't want to tangle with them either. The two of them killed a deer once. One of their neighbors was very unhappy about it. The response "They are elkhounds. That's what they do."

168 posted on 04/28/2008 4:13:43 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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Have to disagree about the Basenji. We had two of them and the female was so smart it was almost scary. Basenji’s are a very different breed of dog. They are cat-like and are aloof. This alone might make them seem dumb to people who don’t understand the breed.


173 posted on 04/28/2008 4:22:16 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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