Really? Never saw that coming. Shocking.
Oh well. Just throw more money into it. Problem solved.
To: libertarianPA
If you haven’t saved enough to pay for your own medical care by the time your in your 70s well then its time to slip away quietly.
2 posted on
04/29/2008 7:10:52 PM PDT by
utherdoul
To: libertarianPA
And has been since Day One, since the moron Lenore K. Sullivan, 1st-district, MO, was lead sponsor on the original ''Medicare'' bill in 1964.
This is somehow a shock?
Well, perhaps to the assorted statist scum who can't add 2 and 2 and get 4 twice hand-running, as for instance this bureaudork.
3 posted on
04/29/2008 7:13:01 PM PDT by
SAJ
To: libertarianPA
How can you tell Medicare is wasteful? Just watch the TV ads for “free” electric scooter-chairs, “free” diabetes supplies, “free” oxygen supplies, etc.
4 posted on
04/29/2008 7:18:40 PM PDT by
JoeGar
To: libertarianPA
I think we'll be seeing this headline in a decade or so.
Universal U.S. Healthcare "drifting towards disaster": U.S. official
8 posted on
04/29/2008 7:43:15 PM PDT by
FlingWingFlyer
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14 posted on
04/29/2008 8:05:33 PM PDT by
qam1
(There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
To: libertarianPA
Soylant Green solves it all.
17 posted on
04/29/2008 9:04:07 PM PDT by
Mark
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To: libertarianPA
And how many years did the world survive before Medicare and hospitals?
20 posted on
04/29/2008 10:45:25 PM PDT by
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29 posted on
04/30/2008 5:54:53 AM PDT by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: libertarianPA
Leavitt said paying for each medical action separately is wasteful and "it often results in bad referral decisions, sloppy hand-offs, duplications, fraud, and poor quality of care. The result is inappropriate care and unnecessary cost."
Last week the Government Accountability Office blamed HHS in part for this, saying the agency had not used its powers to force hospitals to provide better care and less waste.
So what exactly is this guy proposing? Is he saying that payments of lump sums should be paid out and then what....stop giving medical care when the money is gone? How would not paying for each medical action solve the problem of duplication, fraud, better care, waste? It wouldn't. The problem with Medicare is that it's top down government run...the problem with Medicare is socialism. This bureaucrat will never understand the true problem (the big government system) he will just think he hasn't done enough of it yet.
30 posted on
04/30/2008 6:06:12 AM PDT by
socialismisinsidious
( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
To: libertarianPA; All
As a side note concerning Medicare,
this post (<-click), while discussing taxes, tells in general how federal programs like Medicare are a result of FDR's constitutionally unauthorized New Deal federal spending programs.
In fact, Thomas Jefferson, while commenting on the Founder's division of federal and state powers, noted that the Founders had trusted the states, not the federal government, with the care of the people. See for yourself.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons, (emphasized by Amendment10) our property, our reputation and religious freedom." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262 http://tinyurl.com/onx4j
The bottom line is that the people need to reconnect with the intentions of the Founders as reflected by the Constitution and its history, particularly with respect to the requirement for constitutionally enumerated federal government powers which reasonably justify federal spending. The people really need to get in the faces of members of Congress who are foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty, Constitution-ignoring politics, demanding an end to unauthorized federal spending and an appropriate lowering of federal taxes.
To: libertarianPA
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