Posted on 05/11/2008 9:16:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch
Nope my troops replace em every week .....on my desk at work !.......:o)
“Touching your brass would be the criminal act of ‘tampering with evidence’ or ‘impeding an investigation’, or any of a number of crimes.”
I was on a Grand Jury many years ago, and we were routinely presented with a laundry list of crimes for almost every case, to make sure there was plenty of wriggle room for the DA to bargain.
As far as Terry goes google it (here is a link to the basic case):
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1967/1967_67/
There is tons on it. The work of Quigley is somewhat scattered but all winds up at:
usff.com
Read some learn some and just have some fun. ALWAYS fight every ticket if you could not talk yourself out of it at the stop. The more that do it the more it discourages them from running amok!! Be polite (as I know you are) and just burn as much of their time as possible.
“The real hard core criminals have no such worries, as they’ve already got a criminal record.”
Interesting. They know how to get along by living as criminals. Off the record, under the table, in the shadows.
Not much fun, but when it’s all you’ve got...
“What message is that going to send to a DA or a jury?”
If you let a person whom you injured die by not at least calling 911 they’ll charge you with murder.
I saw a case on tv (real, not scripted) where what would have been a good shoot turned into murder because the citizen let the guy bleed out on his porch. The video camera the citizen set up to document the dead guy’s recurrent violent behavior got it all.
“I would stay away from using deadly force unless you are prepared to defend yourself before a jury.”
Don’t rule anything out unless you’re prepared to meet Jesus on short notice.
Anyone who causes me to fear for my life is going to get shot and very likely killed. They had better not expect me to personally initiate CPR on their carcass. That won’t happen. I will call 911 when I am able to verbally express the need for law enforcement on the scene to the dispatcher.
John Steinbeck issued a warning that all should remember:
“Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you.
Personally, I am too old to fight.
>I spent years with Richard Quigley and Roy Gordon.<
I’m retired. I want to spend years having fun with my wife and kids and generally just goofing off, not dealing with some smartass young cop who thinks he has the power to control mankind.
What kind of stupidity is this?
Got it!!! I understand...
The police officer is NOT the District Attorney. The DA is the one who determines if prosecution will go forward.
I would rather be tried by twelve than to be carried by six, and I would never plan to take a knife to a gun fight.
” John Steinbeck issued a warning that all should remember:
“Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you. “
Thank you, I’ve been wondering who said that!
Now I can add it to my signature rotation.
Don't frighten a small man. He may kill you.
Remember to keep the 911 short and to the point. "I need cops and an ambulance" and give the address, then hang up. Remember, they have a probably have a script to get information and they're recording. It's the same thing as talking to a cop, IANAL but I'm guessing anything you say on a 911 call is admissible in court.
Don’t pick a fight with an old small man.
We will just kill you.
Because we can.
hehehlohe
"He reached... and I feared he had a GUN"
"I'm too traumatized to recall anything else w/o my lawyer present"...SOP for the Gilbo clan...
I was Created as a 'Ram' [dont have the fangs to chase a wolf to his den, but am HARDHEADED and dwell among the sheep] - and the best stance for a defensive creature is to practice the simple things and stick to them...you dont HAVE to have a lawyer on retainer...but perseverance in being 'traumatized' may help get the phone call to find one...
MY .02
the only times Ive heard the miranda were in 70s era ‘cop’ shows, NEVER in real life...
Yes, you should be ready to render aid to the perp if your safety is not put at risk by doing so.
I carry two standard GI pressure dressings in my vest, both for me if necessary; if not, I will use them on a perp if and only if I can secure the scene and the erp is not able to be a threat. The presence of the torn wrapper and the dressing bloodied and in place indicates I was not a man out to murder anyone, but that I called the police, asked for an ambulance, rendered basic 1st aid (or attempted to-the opened dressing would be on the ground near the perp when LEOs arrived). Also, I am an advanced life saver qualified Soldier, so I can demonstrate my ability to render aid as well.
The other question you present-SHOULD you render aid to a scumbag whom you just had cause to shoot; well, do not try to say that to a jury.....
God Bless
Molon Labe
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