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McCain will not appoint originalist judges(unless by accident)

Posted on 05/18/2008 5:14:34 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Here's why: 1. Gang of 14. 2. Warren Rudman. 3. McCain said Alito is too conservative. 4. There is absolutely zero logic in thinking that McCain will nominate the type of judge that will overturn his signature bills.


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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It doesn’t matter what kind of judges he appoints. It will take Souters at best to get by the incoming Senate.


21 posted on 05/18/2008 5:56:41 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; All

I think who McCain will appoint to the SCOTUS is a moot point. The uninformed American Electorate is so enthralled by B. Hussein Osama-Obama, the Democrat’s Messiah, that I’m afraid we are going to have to get used to saying “President Obama”.

The American electorate could care less about issuses or Supreme Court appointees; they just wanna “feel good”. But then, God knows the Republicans, in the last four years, have given us very little to “feel good” about. But, I do get “shivers” when I fill my tank at the gas pump.


22 posted on 05/18/2008 5:57:06 AM PDT by no dems (90% of Blacks vote for the only Black candidate; isn't that racist?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

the benefit of electing McCain is that we get 4 years of probably less spectacular tax and spending increases. He will likely get his Amnesty passed to bestow upon =the country many millions of new Democrats and he will get legislation putting Kyoto ++ in place which will eventually accomplish all the tax-raising and new spending that the Democrats would secure for us, just a little less in the first years. The economy will actually enter a permanent decline with Cap-and-Trade and all the follow-ons. I cannot see any difference between the results of a McCain presidency and a Democrat presidency and after Amnesty it will be all Democrat from the next election on. The rhetoric will be a tad different and the results will be a little slower in coming with McC. if he doesn’t simply declare for the Democrats once elected. He is already talking about taking Democrats into his administration.


23 posted on 05/18/2008 6:05:37 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I would feel better about him if he would promise to leave seats vacant rather than appoint lefties and souters. There is no Constitutional requirement for nine Justices. There can be fifteen of them or there can be two.


24 posted on 05/18/2008 6:10:04 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: LS

Actually I expect him to nominate at least nominally originalist or wtherwise Conservative judges but he will have his second choices already lined up and ready to go for when the Senate shoots hes “first choices” down. The seconds will pass, probably handily.


25 posted on 05/18/2008 6:14:14 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain voted to confirm the worst Justice sitting on the SCOTUS today. That is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

Sorry, this guy is out to lunch on this issue as well as just about any other issue he’ll face while in office.


26 posted on 05/18/2008 6:21:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Seminar poster?

Don’t know who McCain would nominate to SCOTUS. I do know how he, Obama and Hillary actually voted on Alito and Roberts, though:

Judges - Alito
Clinton: Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
Obama: Voted NO on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
McCain: Voted YES on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)

Judges - Roberts
Clinton: Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)
Obama: Voted NO on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)
McCain: Voted YES on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)

But lets not let something like actual facts get in the way of a good argument...


27 posted on 05/18/2008 6:27:22 AM PDT by Josh Painter (First, the GOP became a big tent. As a result, it became Democrat Lite.)
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To: CalvaryJohn

McCain is a fan of fellow Arizonian Sandra O’Conner’s time on the SCOTUS bench, I wasn’t wild about her, but she was far better then Souter or Ginsberg.

And keep in mind folks, this time around it will not be a Republican Senate in charge of the Nomination, it will be heavily controlled by Democrats, ones who had no problems sinking Robert Bork, a Alito or even a Roberts would have trouble making it through the process.


28 posted on 05/18/2008 6:32:02 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: arthurus

That too. The point is, does ANYONE expect McCain to FIGHT for anything conservative, including a judge? Against his “good friends,” the Dems?


29 posted on 05/18/2008 6:34:36 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Josh Painter

McCain voted for them because there was no good reason not to.

He might try nominating a more conservative judge, but he will not win because he will never get it past a dem controlled Congress.

Best guess is that we will get a Souter so McCain can get things done, and work with Demonrats.


30 posted on 05/18/2008 6:40:48 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: LS
It’s kind of irrelevant as
I agree with all but a). It's doubtful if Hillary can pull out the nomination, and since blacks think Obama's nomination is a done deal there would be the devil to pay if she did. So it's far from certain that she can beat McCain.

Rev Wright and Michelle Obama are on record as being bigoted against whites, and accordingly Obama couldn't draw flies in the WV primary. Obama might poll well before the election, but in the privacy of the voting booth his own grandmother would probably think twice about voting for him for POTUS.

Since we're cynical about McCain, neither of us thinks he'll choose his VP nominee wisely - but if we're talking can, McCain can KO Obama if he just selects a conservative, patriotic, conventionally Christian, black running mate. Since the Constitution provides for affirmative action in selecting the VP nominee, that is perfectly justifiable even if that nominee's resume is as thin as Obama's is. Think of the hornet's nest that can be stirred up by raising the issue of "reparations!" If Obama says he's for them, what sane white would vote for him? If Obama opposes them, what happens to his black support? (I do not assume that a black Republican VP nominee would attract noticeable black voting support - only the support of guilt voters who need an excuse not to vote Obama).


31 posted on 05/18/2008 6:48:21 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: DoughtyOne
McCain voted to confirm the worst Justice sitting on the SCOTUS today. That is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

As did every other sitting Republican senator, but three (Don Nickles, Bob Smith, and Jesse Helms).

32 posted on 05/18/2008 6:53:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (May 17 was my Tenth Anniversary on FR)
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To: Jim Noble

So what’s your point? Are you saying McCain is better than the three, or are you admitting there will only be about three votes against McCain no matter what he pushes through the Senate?


33 posted on 05/18/2008 6:57:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain, just like Hillary and Hussein has little patience for things like the law.

It is evident in the fact that he patterns himself after the “Progressive-ism” of Teddy Roosevelt. It is evident in the way Immigration law is flagrantly ignored by McCain.

The rule of law, a most precious component of this nation’s truly unique identity is bound for large setback.


34 posted on 05/18/2008 6:57:40 AM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain will nominate conservatives. He has voted for everyone of President Bushes nominees which are some of the most conservative nominated since Reagan. You might not like McCain because of Immigration and some of his love-ins with the left but his record on judges is conservative without a doubt and the only thing that will leave him in the position of having to nominate moderates will be a Senate ruled by Democrats. We desert McCain at our own peril. Those who do not see a dimes worth of difference between McCain and the Democrats need glasses.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-06-mccain-judges_N.htm


35 posted on 05/18/2008 7:01:13 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Memories are best rehydrated with tears.)
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To: Josh Painter

Yes, let’s not ignore reality. After all, John voted to confirm Ginsberg. I’ll bet you think Ted Kennedy was a louse for doing that.

Of course John was just going along with the majority, just like all great leaders do. /s


36 posted on 05/18/2008 7:01:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
My assumptions about a black Republican candidate were pretty well dashed by Ken Blackwell's thrashing in 06 in OH. Not to say this is the case in every state, but OH still has a lot of blue-collar whites who aren't yet ready to make the leap to a black leader---Obama or otherwise. While Obama would lose their votes in a place like OH or W VA, or KY, I don't see any black Veep "gaining" them for McCain.

The only reason now I would even consider voting for McCain is if he picked a young conservative as his veep.

37 posted on 05/18/2008 7:23:01 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain voted FOR Alito and Roberts. He’s on record after his Wake Forest speech. Your “arguments” don’t wash.


38 posted on 05/18/2008 7:25:28 AM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Dead wrong. He will appoint who he says he will. You take the gang of 14 and say he will not appoint conservative judges. With the “gang of 14” we got Roberts and Alito. Souter was a mistake of the presidency not McCain. As to your last point, I do not know whether the statement was made or not but in the end result Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton will nominate someone horrible and there will be two seats for the next president. Are you sure you are not a “left wing” plant?


39 posted on 05/18/2008 8:35:01 AM PDT by Mere
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Oh BTW: There is a huge difference between a judge like Souter that sometimes goes for the left side and the “make it up as we go long” judges of Obama/Clinton. Souter is socially liberal but is moderate to conservative on business issues.


40 posted on 05/18/2008 8:37:03 AM PDT by Mere
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