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To: Dr. Frank fan

Who has the time to find them? Remember to the best of our knowledge (going by characters introduced and mentioned) the fleet had at its peek 3 actual medical doctors and one of them is a shrink. 50,000 people at war, 3 doctors, exactly who do you think has the time to go dissecting every single organ in a Cylon corpse to find the most minute difference? Remember they wound up putting a programmer in charge of a biological study, a clearer statement that they don’t have the people for this kind of stuff couldn’t be made.

You’re not looking for best explanation, you’re looking for the explanations that create inconsistencies. Which by their very nature are the WORST explanation. I just threw out it’s for TV as one of many possibilities, because to the best of our knowledge no humans have seen it, so that possibility remains open. Is that a good explanation? No. But until a human sees the glowing spine it is an open possibility. There are a lot of open possibilities, that’s how these kind of story mysteries work, there’s a long list of open possibilities and slowly but surely things happen that closes them.

But you ARE making an assumption, and your entire complaint comes from that. You assume that when Adama tells Roslin that the medical staff on Galactica couldn’t find any differences that was a world defined declaration of their being no biological differences. Much like how you assumed after Baltar decided to fake the results he would still keep doing the tests.

You seem to assume the characters have greater knowledge/ desire/ opportunity for study than the show generally depicts them as having. I think people tend to forget the timeline and the resource level in Galactica. Most of the problems people see with the level of knowledge the humans have disappear if you remember that their primary source of medical/ scientific equipment is an ancient ship that was about to be turned into a museum and there tends to be very little time between episodes. Remember the election, last event of season 2 before the jump forward, was less than a year after the attack. They had very little equipment, very few skilled people, and very little time, and thus their knowledge grows very little.

Actually if you’ll look at the thread I discussed every single item on your list. The discussion has since then devolved to the glowing spine thing as you’ve dropped topics. I’ve attempted to answer every point you raise, I try to play fair like that.


156 posted on 06/28/2008 7:14:21 AM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear
Who has the time to find them?

Yeah. It's not very important what these robot-controlled humanoids that nearly wiped out humanity and constantly infiltrate human society are like anyway.

You’re not looking for best explanation, you’re looking for the explanations that create inconsistencies.

No, I'm looking for the best explanation. I've posited some. You say I make too many 'assumptions' and then posit a different explanation. What you don't seem to get is that your explanations do not satisfy me any more than mine; if they did, I'd have already used them as my working hypotheses. It's not as if I couldn't think of the genius possibilities you've brought up! It's just that I didn't find they resolved very much.

to the best of our knowledge no humans have seen it, so that possibility remains open. Is that a good explanation? No. But until a human sees the glowing spine it is an open possibility. There are a lot of open possibilities,

Indeed. None of them all that good. Which is my point.

that’s how these kind of story mysteries work, there’s a long list of open possibilities and slowly but surely things happen that closes them.

As I said, I don't agree that BSG is by its nature a "story mystery". The glowing spine is not a "mystery" that is going to be cleared up. It's a stupid factoid that makes no sense in light of what else we have been shown.

Nor do I expect that these things will be "closed" in any real sense. It's clear the writers are not interested in doing that. And how you can simultaneously tell me that I should "wait" for these things to be "closed" (which you know as well as I do is not really going to happen) while also telling me not to ask for closure at all because it's just TV, plans change, I have to accept things, and besides it's bad for storytelling if things mesh well (?), is beyond me.

You assume that when Adama tells Roslin that the medical staff on Galactica couldn’t find any differences that was a world defined declaration of their being no biological differences.

Right - I took his statement at face value as a working hypothesis and reasoned from there. An alternative hypothesis, as you suggest, is that there are sig. biological differences but they just couldn't find them. AS I'VE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES NOW, I find the latter explanation even less satisfying. Get it yet? I hope so cuz I don't feel like explaining the 'assumption' thing anymore. Please read my prev. post more carefully if you still don't get it, otherwise bye.

157 posted on 06/28/2008 7:39:54 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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