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To: DakotaRed

This is actually a real tough issue for conservatives in Oregon, whom I happen to know a number of, even though I don’t live there myself. As is true of many rural states, Oregon is populated largely by two groups: urban hippie-types in cities with large university populations like Portland, Eugene, and Ashland, and rural conservatives, most of whom work in agriculture. More so than most states, the population is disproportionately either far left or far right. The left, for their typical “reasons” are, obviously, pro illegal immigration. Most of the people on the right, however, who have the standing and resources to be a voice for conservatives, are either connected to or an integral part of the agricultural industry in the much more populous western section of the state, which is largely orchard-based, which means that they are almost entirely dependent on illegal migrant labor. For these businesses to be anti illegal immigration is for them to beleive that they themselves and the communities they support should largely cease to exist. Many are already being severely hurt even by the current administration’s vaguely stronger enforcement and losing workers to more lucrative migrant jobs in- you guessed it- Mexico. Essentially, the loss of illegal immigrant labor forces Oregon’s largest rural (ie conservative) employers to lose business to growers across the border, also damaging the other local businesses who depend on migrants and their money to buy goods and services. The eviction of illegal aliens may be good for America, but it’s financially devastating to the only people in Oregon preventing it from becoming an openly socialist state....


9 posted on 06/18/2008 12:11:10 PM PDT by BigJimC
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To: BigJimC

Concurred, somewhat....until this part of your statement. It needs it’s own BARF alert...

“For these businesses to be anti illegal immigration is for them to beleive that they themselves and the communities they support should largely cease to exist.”


12 posted on 06/18/2008 7:51:30 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: BigJimC

....and welcome to FR ;)


13 posted on 06/18/2008 8:01:27 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: BigJimC
Hiring illegal aliens in the US is a violation of the law and you could be subject to heavy penalties. Now just how the heck are Conservatives ever going to take back Oregon if they're all in jail.

Best you guys give up the quasi-slavery business, pay your help, and hire American first.

BTW, Mexican "growers" have other problems (which you may not recognize) that make their product suspect on American markets. The current problem with tomatoes is representative of that problem.

Oh, yeah, and the lettuce thing in CA. You don't really think any of us believed those ladies coring lettuce ever washed their hands do you?

19 posted on 06/21/2008 2:25:22 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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