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Why New Drilling, will Bring Down Prices Immediately (drill now vanity)
(vanity)

Posted on 06/28/2008 10:15:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

(remember all those "speculators"?...)


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: drill; drilling; energy; speculators
We've all heard the mantra, a thousand times by now:

"Speculators are driving up prices at the pump".

Let's take that assertion for a moment, as fact. What does that mean?

That means, there is a massive amount of speculative investment money, which is betting that the price of oil will continue to rise. That money is all, uniformly, locked in what is referred to as "long" positions, in oil futures.

What's being overlooked in all this hand-wringing, and all the claims "drilling won't help anything" obstruction, is the simple fact: speculators can be long. Or speculators can just as simply, be "short".

All it takes, is one mouse click, or one phone call - and all that money can switch sides... and bet on the price of oil, decreasing. Just one decision, is all that's needed. One program trader, whose software switched from "green", to "red".

That's all it will take.

Billions of dollars, are currently "long" oil - that's been the trend for several months. Betting that supplies will continue to be limited, and demand will continue to grow. Betting ... on FUTURE prices of oil.

That's the rub. Markets (never) go one direction. But oil, has been going ... one direction.

That's the reason drilling now for our own oil, will bring prices down IMMEDIATELY.

All it will take in this environment to bring prices back down, is for those billions of investment dollars which are currently betting "long" on oil ... to go "short".

And we will see:... the Mother of All Price Drops.

1 posted on 06/28/2008 10:36:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

AND they will get burned and not speculate with oil in the future


2 posted on 06/28/2008 10:37:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agreed....we don’t have to punch a single hole in the ground....When (and unfortunately, if) we make a firm commitment (repeal the moritorium on offshore drilling, open up ANWAR to exploration, etc.) to increased domestic production, the price of oil will start to collapse.


3 posted on 06/28/2008 10:40:48 AM PDT by rottndog (Globull Warming "Science" = garbage in, gospel out.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I hope this is correct, but this notion always causes me to wonder:

1. How far out are oil futures contracts traded?

2. How soon can new US domestic oil actually hit the market?

I think the answer to the first is months and the second years, but maybe not.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 10:55:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
1,209,183!!!

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5 posted on 06/28/2008 11:01:55 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: Will88
Out to 2015 on the NYMEX. http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/index.php3?market=CL I doubt vary much if drilling more would lower the price a lot, although I'm in favor of it. It may shave $15 to $20 off the price for a little while. This is a demand driven market. People in other developing countries are just beginning to buy cars and drive which will make the problem worse.
6 posted on 06/28/2008 11:07:27 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Democrats don’t want prices to go down. They’re too busy investing in “alternative” sources of energy, i.e., Tom Daschle has a large investment in ethanol. They want to starve the poor. They’re starving children!


7 posted on 06/28/2008 11:28:06 AM PDT by prismsinc
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That money is all, uniformly, locked in what is referred to as "long" positions, in oil futures.

Incorrect. The net positions may be long, but there's a lot of money on the short side as well.

The Ultrashort Oil and Gas ETF (DUG) that bets on declining oil prices has an average daily trading volume of nearly 17 million shares - that by itself is a lot of interest on the short side.
8 posted on 06/28/2008 11:29:27 AM PDT by javachip
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“Out to 2015 on the NYMEX.”

2015, I would not have thought that far out. So, I guess some policy changes and serious plans by the US would bring the price down some. Thanks.


9 posted on 06/28/2008 11:31:41 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
How Liberals View Drilling:


10 posted on 06/28/2008 11:51:14 AM PDT by winstonwolf33 ("Is this supposed to be water?" "It's wet, ain't it? DRINK IT!"--The Goonies)
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To: winstonwolf33

Excellent illustration. Thank you for contributing to this discussion.

(your slumberer on the right, is *so* my type)

We humble readers, really need you to explain the subtleties of oil futures, further...

:)


11 posted on 06/28/2008 12:18:25 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 106 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: javachip

“The Ultrashort Oil and Gas ETF (DUG) that bets on declining oil prices has an average daily trading volume of nearly 17 million shares - that by itself is a lot of interest on the short side.”

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Thanks for that data point. Some time this week, I was about this close ==> ‘ ‘ to calling my broker to ask how I might be able to short oil.

I didn’t, and considering oil popped above 140 the very next day, I’m glad I didn’t. But it’s quite useful to know how one might do so, when the time comes.

Thanks. Much appreciated.


12 posted on 06/28/2008 12:40:37 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 106 Weeks. Waiting...)
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