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NASCAR needs to step up to prevent future debacles. (Goodyear dude: "nobody's fault")
FOX Sports on MSN ^ | 28 July | Lee Spencer

Posted on 07/28/2008 7:54:36 AM PDT by flowerplough

...So give back the trophy and offer the fans a refund or at the least gas money that was spent to get to the track with your $500,000 race winnings. Certainly, the fans across town at O'Reilly Raceway Park on Thursday, Friday and Saturday experienced better entertainment than what NASCAR's top tour delivered on Sunday.

The Allstate 400 was cluttered by 11 cautions — six of which were competition yellows prescribed by NASCAR to evaluate the condition of the tires after cords were exposed on many cars on Saturday during practice. Unlike years past when rubber accumulates on the track over the weekend to cushion the abrasive surface, sufficient green flag racing conditions never materialized for the new car and tire combination.

(...) in Goodyear's defense, there has not been sufficient time to anticipate all the variables associated with a new car that forces an additional 100-pound load on the right side tires. Greg Stucker, Goodyear Director of Race Tire Sales, wasn't willing to associate the tires problem with the lack of experience with the new car.

"It's nobody's fault, it's the package," Stucker said. "That's what we need to understand. We had a full-scale test. We didn't have an open test like we did last year, so certainly, we didn't have as many cars on the racetrack as we did last year.

"We tested as early as we could on the car and we were involved in the early testing, so we tried to know what to expect early on and tried to be a part of those decisions."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.foxsports.com ...


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"an additional 100-pound load on the right side tires" was too much for 'em? I've hauled more than two tons on a three-quarter ton Ford, different times, guess I was lucky I wasn't on Goodyears.
1 posted on 07/28/2008 7:54:37 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough
Jimmy Johnson #48 Chevy Wins Indy! Woo-Hoo!!

Screw Toyota, says me and Tony!

2 posted on 07/28/2008 7:58:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: flowerplough
Lee Spencer:


3 posted on 07/28/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: flowerplough
I'm still tryin to figer out if it was the tars or the track that made this such an embarrassment. I'm leanin towards track.
4 posted on 07/28/2008 8:01:12 AM PDT by McGruff ( 'the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee' - Barack Obama)
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To: flowerplough

Yea, and I’m usre you were doing tripple digit speeds through turns on them too...(rolling eyes).

I’m no fan of Nascar, but after talkign to a few of their fans, I can understand why they are facinated by bright shiny objects moving quickly in loops.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 8:01:28 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: flowerplough

“”an additional 100-pound load on the right side tires” was too much for ‘em? I’ve hauled more than two tons on a three-quarter ton Ford, different times, guess I was lucky I wasn’t on Goodyears. “

Were you going 190mph?


6 posted on 07/28/2008 8:03:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: flowerplough

There are no acceptable excuses.

The drivers knew the tires stunk up the show. The New car has proven it can run and provide exciting competition when the tires work.

Yesterday the tires didn’t work.


7 posted on 07/28/2008 8:10:19 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: flowerplough

How much of your haul was at 175+ mph on a 25+ degree banking?


8 posted on 07/28/2008 8:11:08 AM PDT by nhoward14
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To: McGruff

Interesting you blame the track. The Indy 500 didn’t have tire problems on the same track.


9 posted on 07/28/2008 8:24:40 AM PDT by pas
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To: flowerplough

Good-Year is a blimp. Hoosier is a tire.


10 posted on 07/28/2008 8:26:51 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: o_zarkman44

The drivers have been complaining about the tires all season. Tony Stewart actually got fined/reprimanded for quoting “These tires suck” when interviewed on tv.


11 posted on 07/28/2008 8:27:41 AM PDT by freebird5850
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To: flowerplough

This was a stupid race and if Nascar doesn’t get on top of this they will sink into obscurity. Personally, I have lost interest. Yesterday was a debacle and totally meaningless. They should consider removing about 200 pounds off the vehicles or getting a different tire builder who can put a tire on these vehicles that don’t decide the race.

I followed the sport for almost 20 years but hardly watch it anymore. I have found it boring. I don’t know what exactly is wrong but I suspect it is the management that doesn’t know a tire from a lug bolt.

Yesterday was a waste of time and money. Nascar ought to refund the money to the spectators. I slept through most of it.


12 posted on 07/28/2008 8:29:56 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: HamiltonJay; nhoward14; Rebelbase

“tripple” digit speeds, 25 degree banking, 190 mph, blah blah blah... One hundred extra pounds. Goodyear admits to being completely bamboggled and hornswilled by “an additional 100-pound load on the right side tires”. That’s like having a jail-bait date in the passenger seat.

Went to a NASCAR race once, on free tickets and still got rooked. Hot, crowded, slow. Caution every 10 laps or so and then a rain delay on lap 69, when only about 2 drops per square yard fell on my bleacher-oven.

Never again.


13 posted on 07/28/2008 8:30:59 AM PDT by flowerplough (Implicit in [the Constitution's] structure was a rejection of absolute truth. Obama Audacity p. 93)
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To: McGruff

Formula One had a tire debacle at Indy a few years back.

F1 only used a portion of the “oval” in their race configuration, but this is making me wonder if there may be something about the track surface that is particularly hard on the tires.


14 posted on 07/28/2008 8:33:37 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Hoosier is A tire. As is “Dirt is for racing, asphalt is for getting there”

I have had a lot of experience with Hoosier tires. They have been very dependable and very predictable.

Big balloons with lights have never impressed me.


15 posted on 07/28/2008 8:35:12 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: nhoward14
175+ mph on a 25+ degree banking?

IMS is banked 9 degrees. Less banking would make it harder on tires.

16 posted on 07/28/2008 8:40:33 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: pas
Normally through the course of a NASCAR weekend, the surface of this 2.5-mile track takes in bits of rubber as tires wear away and fill in the grooves created by the diamond-grinding that has been done to it.

http://www.thatsracin.com/topstories/story/16906.html

Something was radically different this year. My hunch so far is the track but it could be the tar compound or the top heavy COTS cars.

17 posted on 07/28/2008 8:41:30 AM PDT by McGruff ( 'the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee' - Barack Obama)
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The Indy 500 didn’t have tire problems on the same track.

True, but Indy cars are half as light and the tires are twice as wide. Indy's track is hard on tires, but the track has been there since 1909--this isn't news to anyone. Goodyear chose not to do open testing. They screwed the pooch. All there is to it.

18 posted on 07/28/2008 8:43:28 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: flowerplough

I dunno......I use to watch years ago when they used STOCK CARS. not these abominations. might as well watch open wheel cars as these ‘decepticons’.


19 posted on 07/28/2008 8:49:39 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: McGruff; All

They haven’t touched the track surface since 2005. What was different this year? The car.


20 posted on 07/28/2008 8:51:07 AM PDT by ChromeDome (Every person's death diminishes me. Some more than others.)
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