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To: DungeonMaster
If the 2nd law were provable, then evolution would be disprovable.

Not too sharp on the laws of thermodynamics but if, in science it is a law, this means it is provable(??) whereas evolution is no. There are also laws of entropy are there not/ The biggest question I have to evolution( aside from all the little nagging questions) is the length of time one human would have to mutate to become man...not enough time? Foe now, for this un-evolved man," When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, The moon and the stars, Which you have ordained, What is ma that You Are mindful of him, And the son of man that you visit him? For You have made him a little Lower than the angels, And you crowned him with glory and honor." Psalm 8:3-5)

So, until evolution isn't tossed in my face as a scientific proven fact ( and we'' just add in the puzzle pieces later) I'll believe in one God, one saviour and one way to heaven. Sounds crazier than evolution but my mind just LOVES the idea we are actually designed, and designed for a reason as opposed to the theorem we're just evolvoved gooey danged lucky mutations in a huge universe that was even more daned lucky to have existed in the first place As much as the Chuck Missler's peanut butter analogy is interesting to longer scientific essays I've read somewhere that the time it would take for one human to exist.

There are other questions I have, message in a bottle.

Of course one can use this format, to figure ones own theorem.

73 posted on 08/13/2008 12:55:22 PM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: Karliner
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_law_of_thermodynamics

The second law of thermodynamics has been proven mathematically for thermodynamic systems, where entropy is defined in terms of heat divided by the absolute temperature. The second law is often applied to other situations, such as the complexity of life, or orderliness.[7] In sciences such as biology and biochemistry the application of thermodynamics is well-established, e.g. biological thermodynamics. The general viewpoint on this subject is summarized well by biological thermodynamicist Donald Haynie; as he states: "Any theory claiming to describe how organisms originate and continue to exist by natural causes must be compatible with the first and second laws of thermodynamics."[8] This is very different, however, from the claim made by many creationists that evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics. In fact, evidence indicates that biological systems and obviously the evolution of those systems conform to the second law, since although biological systems may become more ordered, the net increase in entropy for the entire universe is still positive as a result of evolution.[9]

All of that reminds me of 1Corinthians which points out the foolishness of the wisdom of man.

74 posted on 08/14/2008 5:56:16 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (My son just joined the Navy!!!!!!!!!)
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