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Posted on 08/18/2008 10:35:13 PM PDT by randomhero97

I'm looking at purchasing a rifle but I'm having a tough decision on what I want. I want to build it as a close-combat weapon but can't decide on a 5.56 or 7.62. These are actually two rifles I'm looking at:

AR15 http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=515

.308 http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=286


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1 posted on 08/18/2008 10:35:14 PM PDT by randomhero97
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To: randomhero97
Here's the links again:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=286

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=515
2 posted on 08/18/2008 10:38:08 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=286

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=515


3 posted on 08/18/2008 10:39:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: randomhero97
Just an example. Any variation. How close quarters are you looking at?


4 posted on 08/18/2008 10:40:59 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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To: randomhero97
Saw a show on the history channel comparing the M-16 and AK-47. While the M-16 was far more accurate, the AK had far far more power. They shot at a cinder block, the 5.56 round just took a little chip off, while the AK shattered the whole thing.

I think it is a crime that our soldiers only have a weapon that fires 5.56 rounds. (the hollow point issue is another story) We need to develop a rifle that can function in the field can be accurate and kill with one shot.

5 posted on 08/18/2008 10:41:02 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: randomhero97
I want to build it as a close-combat weapon

I'd let the 12 gauge be my close encounter weapon!

As to the two rifles mentioned, why not both? Can't go wrong that way!

6 posted on 08/18/2008 10:42:07 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: randomhero97

Unless you anticipate a running gun battle in a warehouse, go with the .308.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 10:42:10 PM PDT by Sax (this idea was not a practical deterrent, for reasons which, at this moment, must be all too obvious)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks. I can’t believe I screwed it up twice, lol.


8 posted on 08/18/2008 10:42:46 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: JDoutrider

It will be a cold day in hell before I own any rifle made by Russia.


9 posted on 08/18/2008 10:43:16 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: randomhero97

My pleasure.


10 posted on 08/18/2008 10:43:51 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: Sax

I don’t ever recall someone saying, “my main battle rifle brings too much fire power to the table.”


11 posted on 08/18/2008 10:44:43 PM PDT by Sax (this idea was not a practical deterrent, for reasons which, at this moment, must be all too obvious)
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To: randomhero97

M-41 Pulse Rifle with 3-shot grenade launcher.


12 posted on 08/18/2008 10:44:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Okay, maybe I shouldn’t say close-quarters because it won’t be the primary home defense weapon (That’s reserver for the XD40). I mainly looking at a decent tactical type rifle.


13 posted on 08/18/2008 10:45:22 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Buy them both ,try them out , send me the one you don’t like .


14 posted on 08/18/2008 10:46:38 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: randomhero97

Get Both!


15 posted on 08/18/2008 10:47:19 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: LukeL

Isn’t DPMS a US manufacturer?


16 posted on 08/18/2008 10:48:13 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97
This might not be the best site to ask about guns/ Not that a lot of Freepers don't own guns, but a site like
Shot Gun news would have more information for you/
17 posted on 08/18/2008 10:49:11 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: JDoutrider

Totally agree. Hitting your target is hard under the best of circumstances with pistol or rifle. I know. I use to compete. The shotgun is the way to go. Less likely to miss, and shotguns dont have that nasty tendency to hit someone who lives next door or your child in a bedroom. And the sound of someone jacking a round would scare ME more than the click of someone chambering a round.


18 posted on 08/18/2008 10:51:25 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: BooBoo1000

Thanks. I usually go out www.ar15.com forums but I was already here so I thought I would ask the freepers.


19 posted on 08/18/2008 10:51:47 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Get the best of both. Alexamder Arms make the 5.5 Gendel, Has the 5.56 form factor, fits in M-16. Has better impact, energy, etc than a 7.62 NATO round!

Great people:

http://www.alexanderarms.com/grendel.htm


20 posted on 08/18/2008 10:52:26 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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