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BLACK RASPBERRIES SLOW CANCER BY ALTERING HUNDREDS OF GENES
Ohio State University ^ | Aug 27, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 08/27/2008 8:52:40 AM PDT by decimon

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I have some raspberry bushes so I guess the local birds are cancer free.
1 posted on 08/27/2008 8:52:40 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon; Gabz; gardengirl

Weekly Garden Ping ... sort of.


2 posted on 08/27/2008 8:56:38 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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SWEET!
3 posted on 08/27/2008 8:57:27 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Vigilantism will arise where the justice system is viewed as overly lenient and/or ineffective.)
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For those of us with Cancer, berries sound tame compared to the treatments offered by the medical establishment.


4 posted on 08/27/2008 8:59:45 AM PDT by devane617 (It's the media, Stupid)
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To: decimon

Another food to go with the berries?

How about drugs that specifically target the genes of interest that the berries helped identify? That seems more feasible than trying out different foods.


5 posted on 08/27/2008 9:01:30 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Nah, nah, wrong berry.


6 posted on 08/27/2008 9:03:13 AM PDT by decimon
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bump


7 posted on 08/27/2008 9:03:47 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Not quite there. The article says “black raspberries” not blackberries.


8 posted on 08/27/2008 9:05:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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How about drugs that specifically target the genes of interest that the berries helped identify?

Do those drugs exist? If blackberries, or some extract, work as well as any prospective drugs then I'd go with the berries.

9 posted on 08/27/2008 9:07:27 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Interesting. Thanks.

This demonstrates how ridiculous it is when scientists claim to identify the “active component” of a food with thousands and thousands of compounds, not to mention the dynamic inter-relationships of those compounds, then test the “active component” against cancer and determine “it doesn’t work.”

Maybe it does work-—but only in its original biochemical context, not as a stand-alone chemical plucked out by scientists.


10 posted on 08/27/2008 9:11:19 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he said: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: defconw

Ping!


11 posted on 08/27/2008 9:12:31 AM PDT by cibco (defconw - "Where do I get me a pheasant?" I got you one dear... {;0))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And blueberries ?


12 posted on 08/27/2008 9:15:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: decimon

I haven’t seen any so far this year.


13 posted on 08/27/2008 9:18:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Never heard of black rasberries only have seen red rasberries-where are black ones grown?


14 posted on 08/27/2008 9:22:45 AM PDT by LYSandra
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Never heard of black rasberries only have seen red rasberries-where are black ones grown?

According to my dictionary, in eastern North America. They are really more a deep purple.

15 posted on 08/27/2008 9:30:22 AM PDT by decimon
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The eastern black raspberry variety grew wild where I grew up in Vermont. In my opinion, they have *the* best flavor of any wild berry, bar none. Makes my mouth water just thinking about them....

They tended to have a shorter growing season than the other berries, and would dry out on the bush if they didn't get picked.

16 posted on 08/27/2008 9:33:19 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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Interesting. I am in Montana so never heard of but love rasberries! Thanks for educating me.


17 posted on 08/27/2008 9:37:44 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: decimon

Not yet, but the berries have shown some likely targets for a drug to act specifically upon.

The berries are not very efficacious in stopping cancer, but the genes response they elicit shows us “targets of interest” that may well work wonders when specifically targeted rather than being part of a broad response pattern.

The berries only work (and not berry well) because of specific compounds within them hitting specific molecular targets.


18 posted on 08/27/2008 9:41:01 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: devane617

I rather have my mother deal with berries than with peritoneal chemo :(


19 posted on 08/27/2008 9:48:43 AM PDT by cyborg (Better to be alive and harrassing me than dead and quiet 6/20/2008)
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To: nickcarraway
I haven’t seen any so far this year.

It wasn't a good year for them but I did get some here in New York.

20 posted on 08/27/2008 9:50:00 AM PDT by decimon
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