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Wal-Mart Helps Peterbilt Develop World's First Hybrid Big Rig
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Posted on 11/07/2008 6:25:46 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

A little less than four months ago, the world's largest retail chain, Wal-Mart,announced that it would be launching an environmental plan to reduce its environmental footprint. “Sustainability 360”, as it's called, outlines a number of different sub-projects, such as reducing the amount of packaging that it uses for its products, and selling (and using) energy-efficient lighting. Not surprisingly, a good deal of the plan focused on the transportation side of things. Wal-Mart has requested that its suppliers cut down on the amount of packaging, citing that a 5-percent reduction would be the equivalent of taking 213,000 trucks off the road, and thereby saving 67 million gallons of diesel fuel per year. Perhaps the most significant part about this is that Wal-Mart has actually taken things into their own hands, and has pledged to make its fleet of trucks more efficient.

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KEYWORDS: energy; hybrid; peterbuilt; walmart
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the first of the hybrid big rigs is expected to enter production in 2009.
1 posted on 11/07/2008 6:25:46 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Where's the rest of it?!

2 posted on 11/07/2008 6:28:40 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Last night

Regular gas 1.98
Diesel 3.09

Highland Park $46 a liter.


3 posted on 11/07/2008 6:30:59 AM PST by dblshot
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I'm sure they are serious, they have already switched their trucks to none idle, with apu’s.
4 posted on 11/07/2008 6:31:13 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Matchbox makes a good one, too...


5 posted on 11/07/2008 6:33:50 AM PST by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This is why Wal-Mart is rich, frugality. If they can shave a penny and multiply it by a billion, that’s serious money.


6 posted on 11/07/2008 6:34:07 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I think it’s a good thing that they are doing this, but let’s not kid ourselves. They are outfitting their fleet to save gas as a cost cutting measure, not as a concession to the greens.


7 posted on 11/07/2008 6:37:10 AM PST by WhiteElephant
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

There isn’t a battery pack big enough. Sure, Diesel-electric locomotives have been on the rails for years, but when they use electric-regenerative braking, the heat is dispersed through cooling off of the electric generation units as they are converted into motors, and drive the Diesels.

There are alternatives that would be more practical than an electric type hybrid. Use of a hydraulic pressure accumulator is a much more practical application of both regenerative braking and for assist in building up speed when getting back into traffic.

Ford and Eaton had a prototype system (Hydraulic Launch Assist) for medium-duty vehicles, and with some additional modifications, it could be applied to even larger tractor units.


8 posted on 11/07/2008 6:41:52 AM PST by alloysteel (Molon labe! Roughly translated, "Come and take them!" referring to personal weapons.)
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To: WhiteElephant

But ... but ... that’s the way the market always works! (And why government mandates don’t)


9 posted on 11/07/2008 6:44:31 AM PST by Madam Theophilus
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

They are doing it for the right (pun intended) reasons.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 6:45:35 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

wal-mart is more efficient than many co’s because it is not union.

comrade obamao and buds will change that.


11 posted on 11/07/2008 7:03:17 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: alloysteel

Wal-Mart wouldn’t be doing this unless:

1. It worked.
2. It saved them money.

Wal-Mart isn’t “we’re green, because we’re leftys”. They’re green because it saves money (as in green money.)


12 posted on 11/07/2008 7:16:06 AM PST by Brookhaven (.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I couldn’t locate the actual article. That website is a piece of work and no I don’t want to talk live to one of your sales people, just close and go away!

However, in response (not having had a chance to actually find or read the article) I have several questions and a couple observations. First the observations. A trucker myself who delivers to Wal-Mart Distribution Centers here in the Midwest, I note that the number of non-Wal-Mart trucks making deliveries dwarfs the Wal-Mart private fleet and those trucks wont be hybrid anytime soon.

The effort toward greater use of intermodal (truck to train) has taken numerous rigs off the road in long haul operation but has concentrated traffic around rail hubs in the larger cities like Chicago, LA, Kansas City, and Atlanta. The result is to offer significant savings on transportation to the Wal-Marts, Targets, Costcos, etc but to pollute the rail hub cities. Is that a fair trade-off? I am not anti-Wal-Mart mind you, just asking.

Two, the non-idling policy and the effort to go to auxiliary power units on many tractors is in response MAINLY to comply with strict non-idling laws passed in California and New York not by Wal-Mart’s effort to appear to be green.
And the questions I have are this: Will this hybrid engine develop enough power to get me up a hill with a 44,000 pound load of tap water bottled in virgin plastic in West Nyack, NY to a Wal-Mart Distribution Center in Hermiston, Oregon? And enough engine braking to allow me a safe and controlled descent of a steep mountain grade without toasting the brakes?

My company, one of the largest truckers in the nation, is replacing its older tractors with the newest Freightliners and my particular rig has exhaust after-treatment and runs on ultra low sulfur diesel fuel. There will be no effort on my company in this economic downturn to replace tractors with hybrids unless and until the actual fuel savings is substantial. The greatest fuel savings a company can realize in the short term is to get drivers to shut the damn engine off when they are not in the truck. I still see drivers get out for whatever reason and just let the truck run. It’s ignorant. I don’t want to smell your damn exhaust anymore than John Q. Public wants to and your company doesn’t need to foot the bill for your stupidity.
Rant/off


13 posted on 11/07/2008 7:23:11 AM PST by CARTOUCHE (two roads diverged and I chose the one less travelled by)
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To: martin_fierro

Funny. The picture is of a truck with a CAT engine. Caterpillar is not going to make truck engines any more.


14 posted on 11/07/2008 7:46:35 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Sure! http://ohe.cat.com/cda/files/448363/7/LEDT7017-C15%20Engine%20Brochure%208.9.07.pdf


15 posted on 11/07/2008 11:36:50 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: org.whodat

Yep, sure http://news.tootoo.com/Topics/diesel_power_and_trucks/20080613/113458.html


16 posted on 11/07/2008 1:21:40 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: martin_fierro

You got me. *shrug*


17 posted on 11/07/2008 1:41:58 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (There is no "rich". There is only "the hiring class".)
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To: dblshot

46 dollars a liter?

What’s highland park?


18 posted on 11/07/2008 1:43:46 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (There is no "rich". There is only "the hiring class".)
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To: antiRepublicrat

No doubt. I’ve tried to do the same thing.


19 posted on 11/07/2008 1:45:05 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (There is no "rich". There is only "the hiring class".)
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To: WhiteElephant

No, no I understand that fully.

That’s just the link. I can’t help that. :-)

Some people have a high in the sky pie. Not me. I know it’s all about the green, but not the green that grows. It’s the green with the dead peoples’ faces on it.


20 posted on 11/07/2008 1:46:20 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (There is no "rich". There is only "the hiring class".)
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