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OMG you won't believe what is written on Obama's new website: "America Serves"
http://change.gov/americaserves/ ^

Posted on 11/07/2008 11:17:37 AM PST by syl799

America Serves "When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


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"by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year."

YES IT SAYS "REQUIRE"

And I wonder what he means when he says "encourage retiring Americans to serve"

1 posted on 11/07/2008 11:17:37 AM PST by syl799
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To: syl799

Usually when a lib says “encourage” it means “mandatory”...


2 posted on 11/07/2008 11:18:37 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: syl799

Thank goodness they changed it. It used to say “America PWND”.


3 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:33 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: syl799

Not to mention continured perversion of the word “choose.” If it is required, there isn’t any choice involved.


4 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:36 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: syl799
And I wonder what he means when he says "encourage retiring Americans to serve"

IMO, "encourage" means, "if you want your social security and socialized medicine benefits, you'll do what we tell you to do."

5 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:40 AM PST by Zeddicus
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To: syl799

A perfect example of the liberal thought process: Head Start has been an multi-billion dollar flop so we’ll triple the amount of money and human effort we put into it.


6 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:48 AM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: syl799

American Serves:
Sounds like a Cookbook.


7 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:51 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: syl799

IT means if you want ANY of your Social Security payments...you’ll have to do “community service” to get it....betcha!


8 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:13 AM PST by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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To: syl799
From "Disloyal Opposition": Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, President-Elect Obama's choice for chief of staff in his incoming administration, is co-author of a book, The Plan, that calls for, among other things, compulsory service for all Americans ages 18 to 25. The following excerpt is from pages 61-62 of the 2006 book:

It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. ...

Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs.

Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft," but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also warn, "[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service.

As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama's own plan to require high school students to perform 50 hours of government-approved service, suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration.

9 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:15 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: syl799

Choose = Require. Arbeit macht frei.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:25 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: libertarian27

Sounds like slavery.


11 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:59 AM PST by listenhillary (That giant sucking sound? It's only the government consuming the fruits of our labor.)
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To: syl799

Well, the best part is that you will get to pick your service from a) working at an abortion clinic, b) stuffing envelopes for unions, c) going door to door for ACORN, or d) tearing down what little border fence has been erected.

And the beatings will continue until moral improves!


12 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:14 AM PST by heywoodubuzzoff (~)
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To: syl799

I don’t suppose that my time as a Scout Master in the Boy Scouts of America counts. Probably not.


13 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:21 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: syl799

Since I’m already going to be paying a big chunk for all this, I’ll pass on the “service” part.


14 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:34 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: syl799

How about requiring welfare rats to “volunteer”


15 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:40 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: syl799

What’s this about “improving programs” for those over 55 who serve? Does he mean we “seniors” must sweep the streets or something to earn our Medicare/Social Security?

Hey, Rush is just talking about this now............


16 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:40 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: syl799

College students need to be working for pay in order to afford their tuition or to be able to eat when schools in and they aren’t working.

I wonder how the Obama youth feel now, that Obama is going to conscript their labor for free.


17 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:43 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: syl799

“...American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. “

I don’t believe that is the way that it is written. In fact, I see a connection here with his criticism of the “spread the wealth around” criticism, “Since when have we made being selfish a virtue?” I posted earlier today about the Dem’s use of guilt in manipulation. Obama fails to understand basic free market enterprise and self-determination. We have elected a Socialist.


18 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:53 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Tzimisce

REQUIRED? How can he do that. Is this reverse-slavery?


19 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:31 AM PST by JFC
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To: syl799

kids can sign up folks to help the Democrat Party


20 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:50 AM PST by woofie
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To: syl799

This is absurd!

Ok...I am glad my kids are out of this because I would never let it happen.

[I despise this clown more and more with every pronouncement. I hope my voting compadres are freakin satisfied!]


21 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:52 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: syl799

If you want your full Medicare and SS benefits, you will need to serve...


22 posted on 11/07/2008 11:24:20 AM PST by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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To: syl799
STOP! STOP!!! DON'T GET ABOARD!!!

IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!

23 posted on 11/07/2008 11:24:24 AM PST by gridlock (A member of the Loyal Opposition since 11/4/08)
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To: Tzimisce
Yes Obama will have to be very careful with the descriptive language because there is a minor inconvenience of getting around constitutional prohibition against involuntary servitude.


24 posted on 11/07/2008 11:24:26 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: syl799

Grandma will be picking up trash in the parks and sweeping city streets with twig brooms before she can get her govt pension check

Grandmas who can’t bend over can slop a rag around the sink in the public restrooms off the subways

Or maybe old folks can just sit at the entries to all public places and check govt-issued iD’s of everyone who walks by

This is what the former Soviet Union used to call “full employment” and “vigilance”

I’m sure Cuba, China, North Korea and Venezuela offer models of how to educate youth in new ways of progressive thinking, and how to keep citizens productively engaged and away from idle time in public gatherings


25 posted on 11/07/2008 11:24:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: syl799

“Require” sounds like mandatory and compulsory. Here’s the rise of Nazi Germany.


26 posted on 11/07/2008 11:24:42 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Zeddicus

RE: “IMO, “encourage” means, “if you want your social security and socialized medicine benefits, you’ll do what we tell you to do.”

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Agree — I should’ve read all posts before posting my question............

I guess the “seniors” will be mopping govt. buildngs and sweeping streets like they did in the old Soviet Union back in the seventies when I was there. Shameful!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 11/07/2008 11:25:03 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: syl799

Holy crap. He is a nazi and a communist rolled into one.


28 posted on 11/07/2008 11:25:06 AM PST by exist
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To: bamahead

May be of interest.... well, I’m damn well sure it is. lol


29 posted on 11/07/2008 11:25:07 AM PST by KoRn
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To: exist

RE: “Holy crap. He is a nazi and a communist rolled into one.”

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YOU NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 11/07/2008 11:25:51 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: listenhillary

Sounds like slavery
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Damn Straight

But can’t you see Oprah, the View and Ellen fawning over the prose like it was a lovely recipe, especially when guests arrive?
{It was a Twilight Zone reference ;)


31 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:04 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: syl799

The American lexicon may soon include the word “zek.”


32 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:08 AM PST by VR-21
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To: syl799
Hitler Obama Youth.
33 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:27 AM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: syl799

Wow! All those new “corps” to lead us to the American dream.

Hmmmm....since they are all volunteers, they will need some structure, an organizer. The organizer will be severly put upon so, they should be paid. Grants from the government should do the trick.

Now, since we Democrats hold government power, then it seems only right that our constituency get the paid jobs.

The liberal ponzi-scheme is coming.


34 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: syl799
I say, "Let me serve." Let me speak to 11th and/or 12th grade American History classes. I'll serve once a week for four hours a week, if they'll let me. We should all serve. The Anointed One is right.

Hinayni!

ML/NJ

35 posted on 11/07/2008 11:27:00 AM PST by ml/nj
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Yeah, and who isn’t going to serve? The dropouts and drifters and untraceable people. Those of us who are reliable and traceable will be called upon to serve some of these same people.


36 posted on 11/07/2008 11:27:01 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Domandred
"I don’t suppose that my time as a Scout Master in the Boy Scouts of America counts. Probably not."

Probably not, but that raises another concern.

When I first read this, I thought, you know, it wouldn't hurt to have everyone spend a week at the local mission feeding the homeless. It could make us thankful for what we have and be a motivator.

However, instead of serving at the local Christian mission that meets both physcial and spiritual needs, they would route the effort to some secular outfit that only meets physical needs. And in the process actually hurt the Christian ministry. It'd be just like United Way. All Secular all the time.

Hey, Boy Scout Master wouldn't work, but I bet you could serve your time for Planned Parenthood encouraging abortions or filling out voter registration cards from the phone book for ACORN.

37 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:04 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: 3AngelaD
They also warn, "[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service.

The closest thing to a squeal they'll hear from a lot of us is the sound of a bayonet being sharpened.

Buy ammo while you can.

38 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:21 AM PST by cayuga (A 9mm is a .45 set to Stun. NRA-Life)
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To: gridlock

or could it be Soylent Green, now that we are in Phase IV.


39 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:27 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: libertarian27

“Sounds like a Cookbook.”

LOL! Good one.

Why do I have this sudden, sinking feeling that this will be the last laugh I get out of this clown.


40 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:32 AM PST by jocon307 (Sad, and needing a new tagline)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Arbeit macht frei.

You hit the nail on the head.

41 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:33 AM PST by CheneyChick
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To: syl799

Lincoln abolished slavery.

Obama brings it back.


42 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:34 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: syl799

Welcome to serfdom.

I remember in the old Soviet Union there were a few days each year in which the “workers” were “asked” to “voluntarily” report to work on a Saturday to sweep the streets, clean up parks and do other acts of “service”.

I forget what they were called ... anyone remember?


43 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:49 AM PST by jtal
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To: JFC

Re: “REQUIRED? How can he do that. Is this reverse-slavery?”

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I have a feeling the Zero and his cohorts will be axed before they get a chance to do much. Someone will come along and put a stop to such plans!


44 posted on 11/07/2008 11:29:00 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: syl799

My 10-year old will NEVER serve in any government-mandated program.


45 posted on 11/07/2008 11:29:37 AM PST by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: KoRn

Yeah there’s a gazillion threads on this active right now. I pinged to one last night. You’d be surprised how many self proclaimed ‘conservatives’ here agree with his plan.

Check out: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2127959/posts?page=141#141

This nimrod compared Obama’s plan to participation in Boy Scouts.

Funny, I don’t remember when being a Boy Scout was federally mandated...


46 posted on 11/07/2008 11:29:52 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: USMCPOP

Yeah, and who isn’t going to serve? The dropouts and drifters and untraceable people. Those of us who are reliable and traceable will be called upon to serve some of these same people.

______________________________

Maybe all those dead voters. ;)


47 posted on 11/07/2008 11:30:17 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: listenhillary
Sounds like slavery.

Kinda whatever, but, you know, like, on AOL, you know, they said that it's like cool to be an American again, in like Europe, or something.

48 posted on 11/07/2008 11:31:04 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: syl799

Simply a method to create millions of community organizers to gather future democratic votes..


49 posted on 11/07/2008 11:31:18 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: VR-21

“the word “zek.”

What’s this zek thing. Derbyshire used it too over at NRO in talking about this new “service” thing.

Could you be so kind as to explain?


50 posted on 11/07/2008 11:31:26 AM PST by jocon307 (Sad, and needing a new tagline)
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