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To: Marie2
But stealing is immoral. Murder is immoral. Lying (breaking of contracts) is immoral. We must have laws against these things, or we will have anarchy.

A canard. Stealing, murder, and breaking of contracts without just process infringe on another's rights. These are not laws for morality per se but of protection from infringement of one individual on another.

A law requiring a car to stop at a red light prevents one individual from colliding into another, an infringement. However, a law requiring the use of a seat-belt does not prevent an infringement of one individual on another. It is an overextension of government forcing a private choice on the individual 'for his own good.' A driving moral requirement that is not the purview of a limited government. The individual must be able to make the wise choice of safeguarding himself, a personal moral decision.

45 posted on 11/07/2008 11:31:56 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus

“Stealing, murder, and breaking of contracts without just process infringe on another’s rights.”

Ok. And infringing on another’s rights - whether his right to own property, or live, or speak - is immoral.

So my “canard” stands.


55 posted on 11/08/2008 11:21:58 PM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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