Posted on 12/03/2008 4:31:59 PM PST by hamboy
In a perfect world, yes.
Given the uncertainty of his allegiances, his unwillingness to provide simple documentation that would settle the issue, and the fact that his supporters have propogated documents to back their contentions which have been proven to be fraudulent, would you blame a member of the military for not trusting him?
Do you trust him?
I don’t. He’s hiding something. I think because of the way things are playing out, we have to assume the worst.
I am so sick of this crap.
On that subject the statement that "which have been proven to be fraudulent" is overstating the case. Some guys on the Internet have put forth that case but until I read transcripts of Expert testimony under oath of subject knowledge Experts, I will doubt claims of fraud I've see pictures of Bigfoot on the net too.
The military will follow orders given by command structure
Well, Obama can put an end to the 'suspicion, rumor, and innuendo' by coming forth with a $12.00 birth certificate, rather than spending thousands of dollars in legal fees to stonewall.
You might also want to read this if you missed it.
From the article:
Mr. Vieira cited a fraud ruling in a 1977 case called U.S. v. Prudden, which he feels applies in this case.
'Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading,' the ruling reads. “We cannot condone this shocking conduct … If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately.'
STE=Q
The obamanoid is now no longer with us.
To All:
This is something I wrote to a ‘critic’ on another thread:
I don’t think you understand the ramifications of someone who is not a natural born citizen... someone who may have divided loyalties or allegiance to another country etc.... becoming the most powerful man in the world: the President of the united states.
I don’t care if he/she is more conservative than Rush Limbaugh, if he/she is NOT a ‘natural born citizen’ — as enumerated in our guiding document, the Constitution Of the United States — he is disqualified from being OUR President.
The ‘natural born citizen’ prevision — along with age requirements — was wisely placed in our constitution for good reason.
We are either a country of laws or we are not.
If Mr. Obama — even on his way to the Presidency — is able to circumvent the law of the land: where does that leave us?
This is how tyrants come to power.
This is how tyrants in the past HAVE come to power.
This is how a tyrant in the future may come to power.
If Mr. Obama turns out to be a natural born citizen, I will not feel foolish in the least.
Being protective of our constitution is a duty — not a sin.
Indeed, lacking vigilance in our duty can cost us our priceless liberty.
I would rather ere on the side of caution, then risk losing what so many have given their lives to secure.
STE=Q
Do not get me wrong. I am certainly not criticizing your honesty or dedication.
But I think you have to admit that if high ranking members of the military question his eligibility or allegiance, then there is a potential for problems.
And since we are on the subject, give me leave to ask a question:
If the military was ordered to seize Americans weapons and fire on those who resist, what would happen?
Just curious.
The bible promises us that that deeds done in the darkness will be revealed in the light. Lord, let it be!!!
“I think it might be better to argue that...”
It sounds as though you may be talking about making arguments in a court or in a public forum.
My language, which you quoted, talks about the position the Republicans should take during the Jan 8 joint session of congress.
3 USC 15 provides only an opportunity to present a precise statement and no opportunity to present oral arguments (although the Chair may be given the discretion to hear arguments).
Rather than passively request proof - which we should expect O’s team has anticipated - it seems much more effective to present an objection based on proof O is not natural born.
And, I submit if O is not natural born that proof is in government files and available to ranking Republicans.
From what I read, that issue was unaddressed.
Mr. Vieira has nailed it to the wall...
Pandora's box is about to be opened... Will the Supremes sing? Or is the opening act going to be canceled by the Overlords?
Friday, December Fifth, will either be The Death of the Constitution... or the shot of the Starters pistol for the race to save America's Freedoms.
FALSE DATA ALERT.
I suggest you spend a lot of time reading and digesting the information on these voluminous bc threads before you try to whistle that sort of horse pucky by our heads.
For the umpteenth time:
The Hawaiian state officials ONLY said that they have Obama's original birth certificate ON FILE.
They said NOTHING about what's ON IT, and they DID NOT say that it is the same as the JPEG FORGERY which was posted to the internet.
Got it? Good.
Excellent!
You mean once for each state O has been to? ;)
I see from your post that the silliness season is in full swing.
I do recall hearing awhile back someone online outright said the Obama birth cert docs were forged.
That someone is Ron Polarik, who is a qualified digital analyst and member of Free Republic. He published his full report here about a week ago.
I say any ensuing riots would serve to conclusively separate those who are too stupid and foolish to understand even basic civics from the rest of us who at least try to be the types of responsible citizens that our Republic requires for its success. Simply sitting on the sidelines and providing the play-by-play commentary on blogs while our civilization crumbles is insufficient. We all should be "getting in the faces" (to borrow an Obama phrase) of those people who have no clue what their American citizenship requires of them. I believe whichever direction the Obama eligibility issue takes, we are all going to be called upon over the next few months and years to defend our Republic and our Constitution.
When a usurper is attempting to take control of our country by seducing and deceiving the electorate, the time has surely come to put into real action all of our previously idle words. I think we are at a moment in history where we can still do that peacefully, but if we sit on our hands because we think someone else will do it for us, the time will surely come where we will be forced to take more drastic action if we want to retain our nation.
This is very serious stuff. The liberal idiots who pop in here and on other blogs to ridicule our attempts to ensure that the Constitution is followed are undeserving of their own citizenship, and of the blessings that this great nation has provided them.
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