So I spent the day playing with the Salon DUmmies...

Salon's letters. ^

[Beckwith]

Here's a picture, You can probably understand it better.
 

Here is a chart of the facts and the Supreme Court's holding in the case.  The Supreme Court will have to consider Obama ineligible to be President based on the two cases.  The problem for Obama is that his father was a foreigner (Kenyan Citizen) and Obama will never be considered natural born (or native born) of this country.
 

Facts	Supreme Court Holding	Citizenship Matrix
Miss Elg was born in Brooklyn, New York, on October 2, 1907. Her parents, who were natives of Sweden, emigrated to the United States sometime prior to 1906 and her father was naturalized here in that year.  Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 327 (1939).	Elg is a citizen of the United States.  Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 328 (1939).	1 foreigner parent (Sweden) and 1 US citizen parent (naturalized by US statute)   AND   Born in Brooklyn, NY (USA)
The facts were these: One Steinkauler, a Prussian subject by birth, emigrated to the United States in 1848, was naturalized in 1854, and in the following year had a son who was born in St. Louis.  Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 330 (1939).	'Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen.   Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 330 (1939).	2 US Citizen parents (at least one naturalized by US statute)   AND   Born in St. Louis, MO (USA)

[Sherman Logan]

Wrong.

Quoting the court: "First. On her birth in New York, the plaintiff became a citizen of the United States. Civil Rights Act of 1866, 14 Stat. 27; Fourteenth Amendment, § 1; United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U. S. 649.

There is no reference here to the status of her parents as citizens or aliens, as this was irrelevant. The mere fact of her birth in NYC made her a US citizen (native-born, natural-born, citizen at birth).

The question before the Court was not whether Ms. Elg was born a citizen, it was whether she had lost that citizenship by action of her parents while she was a minor. The Court concluded she had not.

Your chart appears to be wrong about Ms. Elg's parents. The Court said, "The question is whether the plaintiff, Marie Elizabeth Elg. who was born in the United States of Swedish parents then naturalized here."

While it does not specifically mention when her mother was naturalized, as it does for her father, she apparently became a citizen prior to her daughter's birth.

Also please note: The Steinkauler case should eliminate any issue as to whether there is a difference between a native-born citizen, natural-born citizen and citizen at birth. "Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. ...He can return to America at the age of twenty-one, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States"

The Court made no such comment with regard to Ms. Elg, probably because the thought of a female president was outlandish at the time. But it also did not assign her to any category other than native born citizen at birth.

[Sherman Logan]

FYI, a link to the correspondence between the Secr. of State and the Attorney General with regard to Mr. Steinkauler. There is nothing in the correspondence with regard to the citizenship status of the mom, so unless you have some other source of information, your chart stating that she was definitely an American citizen is wrong. Or at least may be wrong.

http://books.google.com/books?id=BvESAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA563&lpg=PA563&dq=Steinkauler&source=bl&ots=tu6FViPAnj&sig=W3FAOyrnQXpGJnDnELR4iGj4Tfk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result

[tallyhoe]

I added that post from Saloon letters because that just shows how stupid these lefty’s are!

[tallyhoe]

I posted the letter from Saloon because I was trying to show how stupid the Obama supporters are! They were never taught American History. To Them anyone can be president!

[Beckwith]

It’s not my chart.

[Sherman Logan]

That’s good. It’s not accurate.

[Beckwith]

You know what they say about opinions.

[Beckwith]

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=401

search “mother,” mother.

[ebiskit]

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