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To: mnehrling
"In Obama’s case, if he was born in Hawaii and his mother was a citizen, then he is a citizen, no preconditions."

This is true but incomplete. Anyone born in the US is a citizen except children of diplomats, hostile occupying armies, aliens in transit through US airspace or waters on their way between two non US destinations and prior to 1924, Indians subject to tribal Law. Everybody else is 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the United States, per the 14th Amendment and substantial SCOTUS rulings. The reason the mother citizenship qualification makes it true is that it precludes any of the listen exceptions.

71 posted on 12/08/2008 12:07:39 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel

True, I didn’t include any of the exceptions because they don’t remotely apply in this case.


73 posted on 12/08/2008 12:09:08 PM PST by mnehring
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