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Condi kicks Bush to curb ** vanity **

Posted on 12/08/2008 4:09:31 PM PST by Mogwai

Condi was just on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. At the end of her response to his question of what she thought about Obama's election, she said "The American people are wise to want change. Two terms is enough." Wow, no one digs a horn into an embattled president's back like a rampaging RINO. How nasty and disloyal of her.


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1 posted on 12/08/2008 4:09:32 PM PST by Mogwai
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To: Mogwai

I’m shocked.....are you sure she wasn’t referring to herself?


2 posted on 12/08/2008 4:10:53 PM PST by Fawn ("Never trust anyone who doesn't like cats")
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To: Fawn

Secy of State Clinton, a REAL change indeed.


3 posted on 12/08/2008 4:12:52 PM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: Fawn

WOW I hope that’s not true. I really respected Condi Rice, it’s kinda funny how these RINOS are coming out of the woodwork. Hey Condi, good job supporting your boss. ya know, the guy that hired you, gave you a chance


4 posted on 12/08/2008 4:13:02 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Mogwai

Some people actively campaigned for her as VP. I challenge anyone to point to one policy that she’s supported that is even remotely conservative or even libertarian in principle.

She benefited from GHWB and then her association with the Stanford “mafia”. Maybe for Stanford she’s a repub, but everywhere else she’s a true blue Dem.


5 posted on 12/08/2008 4:13:15 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Mogwai

Amazing how the affirmative action wing of the Republican Party wanted this second rate pedant as the Vice President.


6 posted on 12/08/2008 4:13:58 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I bet those recently criticizing Bush are afraid the DemocRATS are going to have a wholesale war crimes tribunal to imprison their political enemies.


7 posted on 12/08/2008 4:15:28 PM PST by MtnClimber (You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows,)
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To: Mogwai
"The American people are wise to want change. Two terms is enough."

WOW, Condi Rice just endorsed the Obamessiah retroactively. I knew she is a RINO but this is too much. More race-based pandering..... I guess she is preparing her way to try to receive a better reception in academe if she returns to Stanford or takes any other university post.....

8 posted on 12/08/2008 4:15:29 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Suffer the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: Mogwai

What? Condi is no RINO???

As a matter of fact if that is what she said I tend to agree with her. The country is Bushed mainly because the wackoo’s on the left would not stand behind him when he needed the country to be together but hey... What possibly can Obama say to the families of those American Citizens that die in the next terror attack on our shores...

All that change is most likely the wrong medicine for the country at this point but hey America went on a drunken tear on nov 4th, drunk off of the BDS liquor that the MSM shoved down their collective throats. I just hope when they finally wake up there is something left of the country to salvage.

but so far Obama is doing pretty good at being Bush’s 3rd term liberals are really that stupid.


9 posted on 12/08/2008 4:16:28 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Doing time on the Obama Plantation.)
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To: Mogwai

What little respecyt I had left for her is all gone. And to think at one time I was a big supporter of hers, going back to the late 1980s when she was with Bush I as an advisor.


10 posted on 12/08/2008 4:17:34 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Mogwai

Welcome to Free Republic.I assume you didn’t take her remarks oout of context.[Or did you?.]


11 posted on 12/08/2008 4:18:44 PM PST by Clint Lippo
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To: Mogwai

I wasn’t impressed by many aspects of the Bush administration, to tell you the truth. Rice was not an exception.


12 posted on 12/08/2008 4:19:02 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Clint Lippo; All

Yes we need to find out whether this is an accurate representation or whether this vanity is a troll thread.... did anyone else see this show?


13 posted on 12/08/2008 4:20:04 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Suffer the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: Mogwai

Since you only joined FR in the last 4 days, I’d love to see her statement in context.


14 posted on 12/08/2008 4:20:55 PM PST by ShandaLear (Where's My Stuff???!!!)
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To: Mogwai; All

Two terms is a limit. It’d be nice to see that for Congressman and Senators, too.


15 posted on 12/08/2008 4:21:22 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: Mogwai

Umm...no that is not what she said jerkoff.


16 posted on 12/08/2008 4:21:46 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Condi’s remarks comparing Israel’s walls to racism of the 1960s ended all respect I had for her.

In addtion, the problem with W’s administration, W had far too many moderates and RINOS in his administration.


17 posted on 12/08/2008 4:22:36 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Mogwai

Aren’t you really Mugabe, a “socialist” like Obama?


18 posted on 12/08/2008 4:23:30 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: Clint Lippo

If any of you can find the video, please post the video.


19 posted on 12/08/2008 4:24:20 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

As a black woman once told me - “Color is EVERYTHING!”

I guess the old double standard makes that not apply to BEING WHITE!


20 posted on 12/08/2008 4:27:44 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: Fawn

She is one of the reasons some conservatives stayed home. I cannot believe that Bush pushed Powell out of State for her.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 4:27:56 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013 Obama's last day - If we survive)
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To: Perdogg
I'm pretty sure Powell left on his own accord, Condi has done a more than decent job as far as the State Dept Goes
22 posted on 12/08/2008 4:33:53 PM PST by cmsgop ( Using OS X on a 400 Mhz DV iMac, thats right, I'm Bad.........)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Remember Colin Powell, it’s all about color.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 4:34:43 PM PST by Kackikat (.It's NOT over until it's over and it's NOT over yet....The Trumpet will sound....)
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To: Mogwai
Did I hear correctly that she is going to play the piano for the 0bama’s during the coronation ceremonies that are to run for four days? Wonder if they will all wear ermine?
24 posted on 12/08/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Clemenza
I found myself behind her briefly, but that was back when I still trusted George Bush's judgment. Way back.

She now stands revealed as just another insipid opportunistic race-monger. You can take Willie Mae Token out of Stanford but...

25 posted on 12/08/2008 4:37:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mogwai

Welcome to Free Republic. Cute vanity. ;o)


26 posted on 12/08/2008 4:38:10 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Mogwai

Since both McCain and Obama campaigned on a “change” platform, her comment sounds more an endorsement of our democratic system of voting for President, and requiring a new one at least every 8 years, than a criticism of Bush or McCain.


27 posted on 12/08/2008 4:39:01 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Enchante

I would bet she voted for him too and based on skin color. She said something on an interview a week or so ago that gave a hint to that..something to the effect that it is now wonderful that America is ready for a black to hold the office of President..or words to that effect. Maybe someone out there in posting land can enlighten more on this.


28 posted on 12/08/2008 4:39:14 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Mogwai

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/07/le.01.html

The Exchange:

BLITZER: You have confidence in this new national security team that Barack Obama is putting together?

RICE: They’re all people I know and they are all people of substance. And the most important thing is that they are all people who are going to have the fundamental interests and values of the United States at the core of what they do.

BLITZER: I know you were watching when we reported that Barack Obama would become the 44th president of the United States. What went through your mind as you saw that dramatic historic moment in the United States?

RICE: Well, I’ll tell you, from — a kid from Birmingham, Alabama — in segregated Birmingham, Alabama, it was quite a moment. It means this country has come an enormous distance.

It means that the United States of America is what it claims to be, which is a place of opportunity for all. I don’t think, by the way, that we’re still color-blind. It’s remarkable that we have an African-American president. We’ve had back-to-back African-American secretaries of state. We have African-American heads of major corporations.

But still, we see race and that’s fine. But increasingly we don’t see race as all-defining, of who one is and what one can be. As long as we pay attention to opportunity — to making educational opportunities available, which is really what got me to where I am and I think President-elect Obama would tell you the same thing.

BLITZER: So if he asks you for some help...

RICE: I think we’ll do — I think America will do all right.

BLITZER: But if he asks you for some help, would you be more than happy to help him?

RICE: Well, he is not going to need my help. He has got plenty of help. But of course, he is someone that I admire. He was on my committee, the Foreign Relations Committee. We have talked a number of times. He is going to do very well for the country.

But eight years is a long time. The American people are wise in wanting change. Two terms is plenty. And I’m going to go back to California and on to other things.

BLITZER: Good luck to you.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 4:39:18 PM PST by deport
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To: Mogwai
Very callous of her. But, though I voted for Bush twice, eight years ago America really was a more hopeful, optimistic place.

I'm not looking forward to Obama, yet at the same time I am very happy to see Bush go.

Eight years of his "compassionate conservatism" crap, which was neither compassionate nor conservative, has been enough to last me for a lifetime.

30 posted on 12/08/2008 4:41:59 PM PST by E. Cartman (If Citigroup is too big to let fail, then break it up.)
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To: deport
This wasn't a testament about Bush's term it was in answer to a question from Blitzer about her possible response to an offer from Obama. The "The American people are wise in wanting change. Two terms is plenty." remark was clearly about her seeing herself better off outside of the new administration.
31 posted on 12/08/2008 4:43:07 PM PST by bcsco
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To: Big_Monkey
I challenge anyone to point to one policy that she’s supported that is even remotely conservative or even libertarian in principle.

She's excellent on 2nd Amendment rights. Her father was a civil rights worker, and several times fought off night-riding Klansmen with a shotgun.

-ccm

32 posted on 12/08/2008 4:46:04 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: bcsco

This wasn’t a testament about Bush’s term it was in answer to a question from Blitzer about her possible response to an offer from Obama.


Correct but that doesn’t keep the MSM and trolls from portraying it otherwise....... Thatg’s exactly why I posted the entire exchange in context. There was much more to the interview that just the short blurp about her and Obama.


33 posted on 12/08/2008 4:46:30 PM PST by deport
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To: deport; Mogwai
From that transcript, it strikes me that she was talking about her position or about 2 terms in general, NOT President Bush at all. Looks to me as though the newbie took the comment out of context.
34 posted on 12/08/2008 4:50:59 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Bingo........ Two terms is all she wants.....


35 posted on 12/08/2008 4:52:18 PM PST by deport
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To: Mogwai
I think Bush knows about all of these apparent turncoats. Remember the forum. Who's watching these media networks? They're all Bush haters anyway. I think President Bush has told his staffers "say what you have to to get out of additional unnecessary scrutiny". I don't buy it for a second. Look at Eclair. Any half researching American has to suspect his Marxist leanings, yet he comes out Sunday morning sounding like a conservative. What gives? He's trying to get conservatives to trust the media. Everyone now is just openly lying to the MSM dundeeheads now because they know that no one's listening to them.
36 posted on 12/08/2008 4:54:58 PM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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Is a troll amendment to the title appropriate here? Ms. Rice’s comments were taken totally out of context, as can be seen in post #29.


37 posted on 12/08/2008 4:55:40 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Mogwai

Don’t fret. We lost Condi some time ago. To bad but that’s life.


38 posted on 12/08/2008 4:56:38 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Enchante

More race-based pandering


I think that’s what it is. They care more about their race than about their Freedom and their Nation.


39 posted on 12/08/2008 4:57:40 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Mogwai

Rice is an over-rated academic and a major failure at State. She accomplished absolutely nothing in eight years, but she did have a snazzy wardrobe.


40 posted on 12/08/2008 5:06:14 PM PST by kittymyrib
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How good of Condi to try to pave the way for the most leftist POTUS in history......

I’d like to go back to Dec. 2000 and see how the Clintonistas and Gorebots welcomed and supported the new Bush/Cheney administration.

Oh, wait, on 2nd thought who wants to re-visit that nightmare!!??!!

Come to think of it, didn’t Albore declare to the Florida Supreme Court, “two terms is enough - time to welcome the Bush administration!”


41 posted on 12/08/2008 5:08:37 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Suffer the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: bcsco

Notionally of course she was addressing her own length of service, but the words “The American people are wise to want change. Two terms is plenty.” inevitably appears as an endorsement of Obama and slam against Bush. “Change” was after all O’s mantra. If she was just talking about her service fatigue and wanted to make that clear, she could have said “I need a change; I’ve served long enough.” Really, giving her the benefit of the doubt here is kinda like letting Kerry off the hook for his old “stuck in Iraq” remark.


42 posted on 12/08/2008 5:12:50 PM PST by Mogwai (I'll stop procrastinating tomorrow.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Some people actively campaigned for her as VP.

Because she's black, female, was appointed to an important job, but for no other reason. She's never held an elected office.

Pandering is one of the things that has killed the GOP.

43 posted on 12/08/2008 5:18:42 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Mogwai
If your re-telling of Dr. Rices' comment is accurate, I agree with her sentiment.
I, however, do not see the comment as an endorsement of 0bama. It appears that that is your read on her statement.

Personally I favor a 6 year one-term U.S. Presidency; but that's just my opinion.
44 posted on 12/08/2008 5:29:22 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Liberty Valance

Thanks for the friendly greeting. When you’re new at FR and the welcome wagon comes rolling up, you know there will be those who greet you nicely, and those who want to run you over! Glad you’re one of the former. :-)


45 posted on 12/08/2008 6:16:01 PM PST by Mogwai (I'll stop procrastinating tomorrow.)
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To: tomnbeverly
"What? Condi is no RINO???

As a matter of fact if that is what she said I tend to agree with her. The country is Bushed mainly because the wackoo’s on the left would not stand behind him when he needed the country to be together but hey...

In conjunction with post #29 putting Condi’s comments in context, I think your post is right on target – but, I’d argue there is more.

Bush is a socially conservative, fiscally liberal globalist. It is clearly due to the intervention of God that we've not suffered another attack, but one could argue that president Bush has worked tirelessly to protect this nation (perhaps to the point of compromising civil liberty). Yet he has authorized more new spending then the last 4 administrations combined, has cut nothing from the budget that I am aware of, and he is for open borders – that’s just for starters.

Change makes sense. Obammunism’s change will not be in the USA’s best interest.

46 posted on 12/08/2008 7:11:06 PM PST by uncommonsense
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To: Mogwai

I read Rice raving how wonderful Clinton is. It was sickening. We had stupid Madeline who was mistaken for a cleaning woman, Rice whose comments regarding Serbs were beyond stupid, and Hillary - somebody with no experience who ran a poor campaign and whose lies and facial expression reveal mental issues.


48 posted on 12/08/2008 8:44:19 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It may just be me, but I’ve noticed Condi has a little extra sparkle since O won the election. I truly think she approves.


49 posted on 12/08/2008 8:44:34 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear (Get Sarcasma - Comforting relief from the use of irony, mocking and conveying contempt)
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To: Mogwai

“Really, giving her the benefit of the doubt here is kinda like letting Kerry off the hook for his old “stuck in Iraq” remark.”

At least with Kerry he could point to having told the joke previously in a different way. There’s no possible way to spin “the American people want change, two terms is enough” as a mis-speak. Especially since Condi is about 87 times smarter than that dork.

That said, I do think her comments here are not as harsh as the original poster made them sound. It doesn’t really seem as though she was speaking of Bush, but more saying “we had our turn, it’s time for the new guy. That’s the way it goes.” She could have articulated it better. At the same time, it’s entirely possible she meant it as originally presented. So the conclusion I have to come to is that this, whatever her intent, was an unwise and ill-thought out thing to say.


50 posted on 12/08/2008 10:53:57 PM PST by COgamer
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