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To: jackmercer

“That’s the whole point of having government, to meet the changing attitudes and desires of a people.”

I’m amazed to read such views as yours expressed on a conservative website.

The fundamental point of government in America is to protect and defend God-given liberties. That’s it.

Government which oversteps its bounds - even if sanctioned by majority vote - is lawless.


51 posted on 12/15/2008 9:50:17 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

“I’m amazed to read such views as yours expressed on a conservative website.

The fundamental point of government in America is to protect and defend God-given liberties. That’s it.

Government which oversteps its bounds - even if sanctioned by majority vote - is lawless.”

First, the fundamental point of government is indeed to protect liberties. But governments often go beyond fundamentals to improve economies and conditions of a country. Such as Jefferson’s push for publicly funded and required education, Lincoln’s push for waterway and road improvement projects to boost trade or Eisenhower’s interstate contruction projects. None of these are mandated by the constitution but are not unconstitutional if passed.

Your said “Government which oversteps its bounds - even if sanctioned by majority vote - is lawless.”

But government which oversteps its bounds by passing a law, even if the law is sanctioned by majority vote, is by definition, found to have passed an unconstitutional law and the law is ceased. Did you not see that glaring oxymoron of a statement?

If government wants a law, because a majority wants it, then it passes and becomes law. Then it is subject to constitutional scrutiny if pressed in the courts. If ultimately the Supreme Court (or lower courts with a SC deferral) rules that it is unconstitutional, then the government is said to have overstepped its bounds. If however it is found not to be unconstitutional, then the government is said to have not overstepped its bounds.

Read all of my posts in this thread and then you will see how silly your notion is in the context of this discussion. Especially the posts about clarification of direct democracy vs a constitutional replublic. I have no illusions as to which we are in.


52 posted on 12/16/2008 8:13:30 AM PST by jackmercer
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