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FORGET NATURAL BORN, IS HE EVEN A "CITIZEN" ?

Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55

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To: frog in a pot

Ah, you don’t see it, do you?

I am still serving, and will until they tell me not to. And I will defy The One (piss be upon him) each and every way that I can.

But I am weary of seeing all the Internet Rambo’s who are seven foot tall and 350 pounds behind a keyboard;
Talking about shooting Americans and revolting against the coming regime;
Civil War;
Second Revolution;
Buy out Wal-Mart’s guns;
We’re only 24 hours away from beating Obama (no make that 24 business hours and a $10 donation);
Just wait, Palin’s coming back;

It’s all crap. Not a single one of these people will ever stand against the coming storm.


41 posted on 12/20/2008 7:26:18 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: newenglandpatriot

Our constitution is being stripped away and even conservatives are ignoring it.

The Michigan house of representatives recently passed a resolution that sidesteps the electoral college if signed into law. What it seems to mean is that the popular vote is counted as normal but then it is combined with two or 3 other states and the winner of those states combined gets all the electoral college votes. I think GA. is one of the states involved in this mess.

Pdf file.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2007-2008/billintroduced/House/pdf/2008-hIB-6610.pdf


42 posted on 12/20/2008 7:27:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: rocco55
Headline, 10 Jan. 2009:

Court rejects Berg. Obama bailout?
Some Are Too Big To Risk Failing Constitution Test: SCOTUS
"Little people still subject to microscopic scrutiny," says Court spokesman. . . . .

My birth certificate which I have had to provide on several occasions lists the address of the hospital/institution or in my case the street address of birth. It's signed by a physcian who witnessed the birth.

I realize that a manger has no address but couldn't Obama at least provide the county road address of the stable?

I know also that for some there's no controlling legal authority but..

If the Constitution ain't law I don't know what the hell is -- controlling legal authority or not.

43 posted on 12/20/2008 7:29:26 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kevmo

Do a search on Admission by silnce and you’ll find a lot of reading on it.

here’s one such thing:

Admission by silence


Posted: September 18, 1998

By John N. Doggett
WorldNetDaily.com

Lawyers are amazed that Bill Clinton has not denied the accuracy of Monica Lewinsky’s testimony about their relationship. “Admission by Silence” is one of the most devastating rules of evidence. The idea is simple, clear and powerful. When someone accuses you of doing something bad or illegal in a legal proceeding, you must deny it or your failure to do so will be construed as an admission to the truth of the allegations.

-snip-

Btw, by contrast, i believe the rule of interpretation is different in the UK.


44 posted on 12/20/2008 7:31:05 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: a real Sheila

If you attempt to morph Barry’s face from either BHO Sr or even Marshal Davis, it just does’t seem to work. Any evidence that Stanley (Ann) was anywhere near DNA material from Malcolm X within the proper time frame?


45 posted on 12/20/2008 7:31:41 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: frog in a pot

In my opinion, there are some people who post online and use names such as “sarge” to give people the impression that they have served in the U.S. military. Every veteran that I know cares deeply about the Obama birth certificate issue and would never try to convince others that this issue should not be pursued. Military servicemembers and our veterans fought and continue to fight to defend our Constitution and to protect us from our enemies.

If someone chooses to ignore the facts surrounding Barack Obama’s birth certificate and every other record he is hiding, that’s their right. However, when they go so far as to try and convince others that they should not attempt to seek the truth, then one has to wonder what their motives are.


46 posted on 12/20/2008 7:32:27 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Slings and Arrows; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...
Thanks, Slings and Arrows. The List probably will be interested.

Ping.

47 posted on 12/20/2008 7:33:35 PM PST by LucyT
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

ping for later reading


48 posted on 12/20/2008 7:34:35 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: Old Sarge

“Does it matter anymore?

SCOTUS refuses to hear the case.

It’s over.”

Absolutely untrue. All SCOTUS has done so far is refuse to hear applications for interim stays. The actual cases are still working through the system.


49 posted on 12/20/2008 7:37:03 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: CaribouCrossing

Posers will try anything.

FR can smell them a mile away.


50 posted on 12/20/2008 7:38:18 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: rocco55; All

You know, Mr. Berg does have a point. Any illegal alien can obtain a drivers license of a false identity. Until we see, and I mean SEE, not just take the word of his autobiography, his records, what do we know?

Guys, I’m really starting to get more than a little creeped out.


51 posted on 12/20/2008 7:40:42 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Nipfan

Do you honestly think they’ll bother?


52 posted on 12/20/2008 7:46:08 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: tumblindice

“2.) Those who think this is a waste of time can move on to another thread, we will fight for the Constitution and carry your weight, but stay out of our path.”

I’m with you!


53 posted on 12/20/2008 7:49:44 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: RepublicanMeansAmerican

Any in depth documentary for Jr will be like any Preidential library for him, empty except for a picture of Jr and the Jackie wannabe!


54 posted on 12/20/2008 7:50:20 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: SERKIT
If you attempt to morph Barry’s face from either BHO Sr or even Marshal Davis, it just does’t seem to work. Any evidence that Stanley (Ann) was anywhere near DNA material from Malcolm X within the proper time frame?

Yes, Stanley Ann was enrolled at the University of Washington in Seattle, which is where Malcolm X was living. So it's possible, although the fellow who raised this theory didn't actually prove it, IMHO. But it's certainly possible.

I don't think Obama's father was Obama senior. He is too light-skinned, and they don't look at all alike.

But who knows? What gets me is that the Supreme Court refuses to require Obama to release his birth records. That's hardly an unreasonable thing to ask.

As for the damned press, sitting back and doing NO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA AT ALL--friends, college roommates, college records, health records. It's far worse than their complicity with ClintBilly.

55 posted on 12/20/2008 7:51:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Theodore R.

America was so enamored with the Clintons that after ony two years in office, the Republicans gained a substantial majority in Congress. We can only pray that will happen again in 2010, but this time with real Conservatives who will actually make a difference and not the compromising baloney of Newt Gringrich et.al. who squandered it all.


56 posted on 12/20/2008 7:54:27 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Old Sarge

Do you honestly think they’ll bother?
***What is your motive, your purpose on this CertifiGate thread? Regardless of whether the SCOTUS will take up the case, you denigrate it as something to “bother” with. Don’t you think the constitution should be upheld by those whose job it is to uphold it? Why else do they get lifetime employment? It’s to buffer them from political winds. What is your FReeping problem? This is a constitutional crisis, with a case before the supreme court, and we’re discussing it on this constitutionalist website with REMFs like you shooting us in the backs. WHY? When the framers of the constitution said “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”, was that just some sort of fun musical tone to sing to or was it some serious stuff to be considered?

20th Amendment Sct3: “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2145602/posts
12/09/2008 9:59:02 AM PST · by Kevmo · 79 replies · 1,619+ views
Constitution of the United States ^ | January 23, 1933 | US Constitution


57 posted on 12/20/2008 7:56:43 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Old Sarge

OK, if you are still serving and you have done your tour(s) in the sand box, I will back off.

“It’s all crap. Not a single one of these people will ever stand against the coming storm.”

You may have a point; but, I have some good news for you. There are a bunch just like you who are no longer serving who will stand. Many have recent experience, and those that do not make it a point to maintain their proficiency, many are LEO’s, many are capable and dedicated in other ways. Many will depend upon you because you will have had the most recent experience.

As you know the American Revolution was waged with a very small portion of the population.

“Ah, you don’t see it, do you?”

It may be good we have different perspectives.


58 posted on 12/20/2008 8:03:01 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: mountaineer1997

Our system is not failing us. We have people in power now who do not respect the Constitution. We have a mainstream press that propagandizes rather than objectively reports. I think we’d be fine if lawmakers respected the Constitution and the press attempted to objectively report on the news.


59 posted on 12/20/2008 8:03:40 PM PST by beejaa
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To: Cicero

I am amazed by BHO’s mother - only 17, going to college and walking on the wild side in 1960. Very daring for those times - she was out to prove something - another story the Media dare not explore. I hadn’t heard the Malcom X angle. I would be surprised if that were true, but it makes more sense than the Kenyan. Barak Sr. may have thought he was the babydaddy, but Stanley probably didn’t even know herself. The relatives in Kenya now are all under a gag order from the Govt. This truly is amazing that no one dare come forward. Where did those pictures of BHO as a young man come from? This is the Twilight Zone.


60 posted on 12/20/2008 8:06:18 PM PST by Sioux-san
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