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1 posted on 12/29/2008 8:12:39 AM PST by gOOsefmalOOsef
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870


2 posted on 12/29/2008 8:17:26 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Both are good choices......I am partial to the Remington, though.


3 posted on 12/29/2008 8:17:39 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Oh man have you started one now.
I have both and dont think you can really go wrong with either as far as RELIABILITY.

However just IMHO if you decide to use a pump for home defense, don’t shoot anything else like a autoloader or double barrel for any period of time. You want the bang-PUMP action to come automatically to you when crunch time comes.


4 posted on 12/29/2008 8:17:55 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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Pictures, pictures, pictures


5 posted on 12/29/2008 8:18:41 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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Check back later bump! ;-)


6 posted on 12/29/2008 8:18:59 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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The Rem 870 design has been used for decades by military and police. There are a ton of aftermarket items for it as well.

I vote(d) 870.


7 posted on 12/29/2008 8:19:10 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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That’s almost a theological question ....I have used Remington shotguns since the about 1960 and have never had a problem. In fact the first shotgun I bought for myself was a Remington 870, and I use it to this day.


8 posted on 12/29/2008 8:19:17 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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Binelli NOVA.


9 posted on 12/29/2008 8:20:09 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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I like the safety placement better on the 500.


11 posted on 12/29/2008 8:21:00 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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The 870 gives you 7 rounds, the Mossberg gives you 8.


12 posted on 12/29/2008 8:22:05 AM PST by PasorBob
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I have an 870 full-choke pump and am very happy with it. Just the mechanical sound of the pump action is an attention getter for any intruder.


13 posted on 12/29/2008 8:22:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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A buddy of mine has a recording of the sound of racking a pump shot gun hooked up to his door bell I love it


15 posted on 12/29/2008 8:23:53 AM PST by al baby (Hi mom Mr. Obama, are you aware that Sarah Palin took on her own partyÂ’s establishment in Alaska a)
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In the finest FReeper tradition, I'll be the first to say "Get both"! 8^)

They're both fine weapons, but it comes down to personal ergonomics. Which one shoulders better for you? Do you like the Mossy's thumb safety on the tang or the Remmy's safety on the trigger guard? What mag capacity do you feel you need? etc., etc.

My decision was for a used 870 Wingmaster as a base followed by an 18" aftermarket barrel and a +2 magazine extension.

20 posted on 12/29/2008 8:26:17 AM PST by AngryJawa (SOCIALISM SUCKS)
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870.


25 posted on 12/29/2008 8:27:26 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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I would say that they are probably both of equal reliability, but the Remington edges the Mossberg out a bit in long-term build quality. They will both be a bit stiff to operate for a little while. The Remington will be as smooth as glass after a few hundred shells, while the Mossberg may be as smooth, but will probably end up feeling a bit “looser”.

After 10,000 or more shells, the 870 will feel like an old friend, and will shoot like it's wired to your brain.

26 posted on 12/29/2008 8:28:48 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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Both.


29 posted on 12/29/2008 8:29:29 AM PST by proudpapa (Obama - The Worst One Ever!)
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“I am young and a bit naive when it comes to firearms but am interested in a good home defense shotgun. As I am well aware many of you have experience in this area I was wondering what recomendations you might have to Remington 870 express vs the Mossberg 500?”

Ignore everyone else, and listen to me alone!

Both are good. If one or the other is substantially cheaper and in good shape, get that one.

If they are the same cost, pick whichever one feels best in your hands. If you can, before you buy, find some folks who have them and get them to take you shooting, so you can try them out.

And don't tell me Jedi mind tricks don't work on you! You'll hurt my feelings! ;)

I believe the Mossberg 500 will probably be cheaper, if you get a stock weapon. Get one that is gussied up for “tactical” use, ie, an ugly black gun, and it's going to cost more. Remington's 870 might possibly be a bit higher quality, or so I've heard. I've owned one of each, but a long time apart, and I'd be happy to have either kind. Especially right now. Mine was gussied up with the folding pistol-grip stock in black plastic, but the original forearm grip in beat up walnut. I think someone ran out of $$ while playing with it. I got it in a three-corner trade long ago, and it's long gone. I liked them both.

32 posted on 12/29/2008 8:31:17 AM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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Oh yeah - whatever you buy, get thee to the range and practice with it until the manual of arms becomes second nature. The range is the place to make and correct mistakes like short-stroking the action or forgetting to snick off the safety.


33 posted on 12/29/2008 8:31:23 AM PST by AngryJawa (SOCIALISM SUCKS)
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Yes.


34 posted on 12/29/2008 8:31:49 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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I am young and a bit naive when it comes to firearms but am interested in a good home defense shotgun.

The question of what to use as a home defense weapon is a question of who is going to use the weapon.

If you are a young strapping male a a shotgun could be appropriate.

If you are a young petit female a pistol may be more appropriate.

Being able and confident in handling the weapon when the need arises is more important than hitting power.

If the only use the shotgun will be put to is home defense I would recommend shopping around and finding an used shotgun at a good price. Either would be a fine choice. Make sure that you buy one with as short a barrel as you can find with an open choke or ‘slug’ barrel.

If you may choose to hunt with the weapon you may want to put out the money for a new weapon. If this is a possibility you may want to buy an extra barrel to suit your hunting needs.

35 posted on 12/29/2008 8:31:52 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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