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For all you bitter clingers out there: The 10 Best Guns Ever Made
Field and Stream ^

Posted on 01/03/2009 12:39:36 PM PST by yankeedame


1. Winchester Model 70 (pre-1964)
It was not even an original design. The Model 70 was an improvement of Winchester's Model 54, which in turn was based on the Mauser Model 98. But upon its birth in 1936, it kindled a love affair that has never died. Winchester advertised it as "the rifleman's rifle,-¿ and the slogan stuck. This was the big-game rifle by which all others were measured, and it is still, in my opinion, the best factory bolt action ever made.

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2. Mauser Model 98
Imagine someone building an automobile two years before the end of the 19th century, five years before the Wright brothers flew. Now imagine that this same automobile is still very much in use, still regarded by many as the best car around, and still in production. That is exactly what Peter Paul Mauser did when he designed his Model 98 rifle in Germany.

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3. Winchester Model 12
It is well known among the snobbier of shotgun enthusiasts that no repeating shotgun can handle as well as an over/under or a side-by-side. But there is one repeater that points like the Finger of Doom itself-"the Model 12 pump.

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4. Remington Model 1100
Autoloading shotguns had been around for a long time by 1963, but the new Model 1100 was different. Previous self-loaders were heavy and handled like sledgehammers. If they were recoil operated, they kicked like mules. People tolerated them only because they offered three or more fast shots. The 1100, on the other hand, was sleek, moderate in weight, and handled splendidly. Most important, it had softened recoil.

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5. Smith & Wesson Model 29
Some people date the birth of S&W's Model 29 .44 Magnum to the 1970 movie Dirty Harry, but they are ignorant and deserve our scorn. The Model 29 debuted in 1955 and is one of those rare firearms that force us to redefine what a gun can do. The .44 Magnum enabled handgunners to not only hunt big game but to shoot it at rifle-caliber distances.

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6. Winchester Model 94
It is useful only at comparatively short range; it does not take to scope mounting; it is not accurate by today's standards. Every attempt to torture it into something else has failed. But if you say "deer rifle," you mean the Model 94 lever action. Short and light, it kicks hardly at all, gets on target fast, is ultrareliable, and carries comfortably in the hand.

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7. Remington Model 700
In the years after World War II, Remington hired a pair of brilliant designers named Mike Walker and Wayne Leek. The two men realized that if the company was to survive, it could not make guns the way it had before 1941. The new generation of Remingtons would have to be far simpler and cheaper to make. And so they came out with a horrible-looking rifle called the Model 721. It was cheap to make and looked it, but it was more accurate than any other factory rifle at the time.

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8. Benelli Autoloader
Newton's First Law of Motion-"an object at rest tends to remain at rest-"drives the ultradependable Benelli action, which redefined autoloading reliability in the 1990s.

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9. Remington XP-100
The development of handguns has progressed in a series of seismic jolts. One came in 1963, when Remington announced the XP-100, which looked like a prop from a Buck Rogers movie. It was not so much a handgun as a one-handed rifle. To make the gun, Remington utilized the bolt action from its Model 600 carbine, a Zytel stock borrowed from the Model 66 .22 autoloader, and a barrel rib and sights from the Model 660 magnum carbine. Designers didn't stop there, though. They also cooked up a red-hot varmint cartridge called the .221 Fireball to chamber in the new gun. The result was historic: For the first time, varmint hunters could pound pasture poodles without a rifle, and handgunning had taken on a whole new dimension.

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10. Remington Model 870
Think of it as a Winchester Model 12 that is easy to manufacture. The Model 870 made its debut in 1950 as one of the first of Remington's "new generation" of guns that did away with the complex machining of the past. And it may be sacrilege to say so, but the plebian 870 is probably as good a gun as the aristocratic Model 12. It pumps just as fast, points as well, is just as reliable, and is unbelievably long-lived. The late shotgunning great Rudy Etchen put 4 million rounds through his 870 with just some minor parts replacement to keep it going. The 870 is still with us, made in every configuration known to man, and it will probably be around for many years more.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Reference
KEYWORDS: banglist; topten
These are the top ten from a fairly long F&S article called: "The 50 Best Guns Ever Made". Be sure to check it out.
1 posted on 01/03/2009 12:39:37 PM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Fudd guns in the top ten. No doubt a F&S list.


2 posted on 01/03/2009 12:45:58 PM PST by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: yankeedame
Since I own six of your ten , it is hard to disagree . I would have thrown in the A-5 but that might be because I just happen to shoot better with it .
3 posted on 01/03/2009 12:48:34 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: yankeedame
Yea baby!
4 posted on 01/03/2009 12:50:33 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: yankeedame

A beautiful and accurate description of #6.


5 posted on 01/03/2009 12:57:11 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: yankeedame
One or two of those I could agree to having in a top ten list, but that would be about all.

If nothing else, metallurgy has come a long way in the last 40 years or so; it doesn't hurt to dry snap modern rifles but you'd not want to do it with anything 'pre-64'...

Modern autoloading shotguns are much faster than those of 40 yearss ago i.e. you can't outrun the trigger on Beretta or Benelli's recent semiautos.

6 posted on 01/03/2009 1:13:40 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: yankeedame
Mostly limited to hunting firearms - not military or target firearms.

Hunting Heritage Trust

7 posted on 01/03/2009 1:18:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: IGOTMINE

No fudd guns for me.

I have about 30 firearms, and own exactly zero from that top 10 list.

8 posted on 01/03/2009 1:18:16 PM PST by SIDENET ("It was a different time, you understand." - Wallace "Suitcase" Jefferson)
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To: yankeedame

Thanks for the article. My dad just handed down his Winchester Model 70 to our son.


9 posted on 01/03/2009 1:19:02 PM PST by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: yankeedame
Completely bogus without one of these:

10 posted on 01/03/2009 1:19:25 PM PST by NonLinear (McCain failed to raise the money to project the message he did not have.)
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To: yankeedame

4.5 for me
(I’m giving myself a half point for my post ‘64 Model 70)


11 posted on 01/03/2009 1:30:16 PM PST by Bunkasaurus (I'm indecisive....or am I?)
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To: yankeedame
Belgian Model of course:
12 posted on 01/03/2009 1:33:10 PM PST by sticker
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To: yankeedame

Jeez, was the author a Winchester salesman?


13 posted on 01/03/2009 1:36:05 PM PST by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: SIDENET

lol...

Had the same thoughts run thru my head...


14 posted on 01/03/2009 1:37:38 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: yankeedame

The only one (actually three) from that list that I own is the Benelli. I have two H&K Benelli M1S90s for home defense and a Super Black Eagle II for hunting.


15 posted on 01/03/2009 1:41:29 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: NonLinear

AMEN!


16 posted on 01/03/2009 1:42:57 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: freeplancer

A magazine writer whose number one advertiser is probably Winchester. This incestuous relationship is why Cold Steel Knives doesn’t advertise in knife magazines.

Top ten hunting guns obviously as it did not include the AK-47 and the B.A.R.. ;)


17 posted on 01/03/2009 1:43:46 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: yankeedame

The author loses.

No 1911, Colt Model P or High Power on the list.

Now if you change the headline to the 10 morst popular hunting firearms, it would make sense.


18 posted on 01/03/2009 1:54:39 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: allmendream
I kind of like this one...


19 posted on 01/03/2009 1:54:45 PM PST by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: yankeedame

My personal favorite.

20 posted on 01/03/2009 1:57:55 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: IGOTMINE
"Fudd guns in the top ten. No doubt a F&S list.

First time I've heard that term. Perfectly explained in context, too, with all those Fudd guns, even including an XP-100, and no M1 Garand.

The author's a gomer.

21 posted on 01/03/2009 2:02:34 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
First time I've heard that term. Perfectly explained in context, too, with all those Fudd guns, even including an XP-100, and no M1 Garand. The author's a gomer.

Should have just called it a top ten list of "Remchester" hunting guns.

22 posted on 01/03/2009 2:08:47 PM PST by SIDENET ("It was a different time, you understand." - Wallace "Suitcase" Jefferson)
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To: yankeedame
I would have to disagree form the broad best ever made. GE Gatling gun was fabulous over Viet Nam. 16incher was a winner in the Pacific. Chain guns should not be left out. 6 inchers were extremely accurate. M14 and M1 Garand should be in the best.
23 posted on 01/03/2009 2:26:51 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: NonLinear
Completely bogus without one of these:

One could pretty well argue that the 1911 is the greatest autoloading pistol of all time, though there would be room for disagreement. Certainly, though, there should be more than one autoloading pistol on a list of the 50 greatest firearms. While the Ruger Mark I is probably worthy of a spot on a top-50 list, I would hardly consider it to be the greatest autoloading pistol of all time.

24 posted on 01/03/2009 2:35:37 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: yankeedame
Yank the Remington 870 since the Winchester Model 12 is more appropriate. Yank the XP-100. Substitute the M1911A1 for the XP-100. I agree with the rest but not as a FINAL list whatever that means. But this list is fine for a "sporting list."
25 posted on 01/03/2009 3:58:46 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: yankeedame

glad to see the Mossberg 500 and the Remington over-under. I didn’t realize when I was young and firing these fine weapons that they were a couple of the greatest weapons ever.

I just knew they hurt fairly bad in 12 gauge form when you are only 12 years old. The bruises go away but the memories never fade.


26 posted on 01/03/2009 5:08:43 PM PST by bpjam (GOP is 3 - 0 in elections after Nov 4th. You Can Smell the Rally !!!)
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To: allmendream
A magazine writer whose number one advertiser is probably Winchester.

Not likely, unless this article dates back to when Winchester was still in business.

27 posted on 01/03/2009 5:09:18 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: bpjam

Beretta Silver Snipe over/under 12 ga. Best bird gun I ever owned and shot.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 5:18:13 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Charles Martel
Not likely, unless this article dates back to when Winchester was still in business.

Winchester sure seems to think they are still in business: www.winchesterguns.com
29 posted on 01/03/2009 5:24:15 PM PST by NonLinear (McCain failed to raise the money to project the message he did not have.)
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To: NonLinear

They are now owned by Browning. Parts for my 94AE levergun are being shipped from a Browning owned factory.


30 posted on 01/03/2009 5:27:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Their website says they are owned by Olin Corp.


31 posted on 01/03/2009 5:32:02 PM PST by NonLinear (McCain failed to raise the money to project the message he did not have.)
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To: freeplancer

Marlins where always better.


32 posted on 01/03/2009 9:35:25 PM PST by omega4179 (Bush Abandoned Ramos and Compean)
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To: yankeedame

I’ll take one of each of the top 10.

Man, I need to get to PA...


33 posted on 01/04/2009 12:28:42 AM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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To: yankeedame; All

Also, I hope this is the new release of it. I’ll look for it wherever I can and purchase a copy.


34 posted on 01/04/2009 12:29:41 AM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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To: yankeedame

I like #7. Add just a few thousand dollars worth of “modifications” and you have what hogs call a “40”.


35 posted on 01/04/2009 12:33:02 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: yankeedame

If this is the top 10 civilian guns its still a very lame list.
No need for 2 bolt actions, the Mauser inspired the Model 70.
The Xp100 was never a big hit.
My list would be something like this
1-Remington 870 wingmaster
2-Winchester Pre 64 model 70
3-Marlin 336 lever action
4-Marlin Model 60 .22 auto
5-Colt series 70 .45
6-Remington 1100
7-Ruger 10/22
8-Smith&Wesson K17 .22 masterpiece
9-Smith&Wesson model 66
10-Remington Woodsmaster pump rifle


36 posted on 01/04/2009 5:56:38 AM PST by omega4179 (Bush Abandoned Ramos and Compean)
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To: omega4179

The Marlin 60 was the first rifle I shot, back when I was 8 years old. It left enough of an impression on me that I gave my daughter a model 60 as her first rifle this past Christmas.


37 posted on 01/04/2009 6:14:13 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: NonLinear

Winchester ammunition is owned by Olin Corp. Winchester firearms is owned by FN Herstal.


38 posted on 01/04/2009 11:31:32 AM PST by javachip
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To: NonLinear
Winchester sure seems to think they are still in business

I stand corrected - didn't know that Olin, Browning and FN were going to continue the marque. Still, most of the Winchesters on the list are no longer made; looks like the Model 70 just resumed production in 2008. I doubt that the list is an "incestuous" plug for an advertiser.

39 posted on 01/04/2009 3:03:01 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: yankeedame

It’s Field and Stream. Of course their top guns are Fudd guns. A lot of these magazine guys have never even held a firearm that didn’t have Winchester or Remington stamped onto it.

If this was “best guns” listing actually taking the world (not just North America) into account, the AK-47 would be the top firearm, no contest.


40 posted on 01/04/2009 7:03:43 PM PST by ohioarmedneutrality (Never mess with a Quaker armed with a semi-automatic rifle.)
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To: yankeedame

Ah, the old Nylon 66 gets a mention. I got one for my 16th birthday many decades ago. It was the most fun of any firearm I ever used. Never jammed.


41 posted on 01/04/2009 7:09:32 PM PST by js1138
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To: yankeedame

This is definitely the top 10 list for hunting rifles, however two of these rifles play a big role in the military as well. The Winchestor model 70 and Remington model 700 are used by Marine snipers in sta platoons all across the Marine Corps. Forget the McMillans and Barrets. The most widely used sniper rifles in the Marine Corps are still these two rifles.


42 posted on 01/05/2009 5:47:06 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: ohioarmedneutrality
"If this was “best guns” listing actually taking the world (not just North America) into account, the AK-47 would be the top firearm, no contest."

That would depend on your criteria. If your criteria was what is the simplest, cheapest auto rifle to learn how to use and never has to be cleaned then I would agree. The AK-47 is the way to go. If you are basing this on precision and accuracy, then the AK-47 is not your ideal weapon. Again, before you come up with a top 10 list, you have to lay out the criteria that the weapons are being rated by.
43 posted on 01/05/2009 5:53:02 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden (I)
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To: yankeedame

Clearly, the S&W M&P should be at the top of the list (and I mean the .38 special revolver, not that silly plastic thing they make now). This gun, in its various minor incarnations, is the most produced single handgun of all time (yes, there are surely many, many more 1911’s, but from a zillion different manufacturers). It has been the trusted sidearm of the policeman, civilian, soldier, and airman for almost a hundred years.


44 posted on 01/06/2009 11:39:41 AM PST by SandWMan
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