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Who's benefitting from economic misery?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 15, 2008 | Gregory Zuckerman

Posted on 01/16/2009 10:05:08 PM PST by Tellurian

"One Wall Street specialty during the boom was repackaging mortgage securities into instruments called collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs, then selling slices of these with varying levels of risk.

"For buyers of the slices who wanted to insure against the debt going bad, Wall Street offered another instrument, called credit-default swaps.

Naturally, the riskier the debt that such a swap "insured," the more the swap would cost. And this price would go up if default risk appeared to be increasing. This meant an investor of a bearish bent could buy the swaps as a way to bet on bad news happening.

During the boom, however, many were so blind to housing risk that this "default insurance" was priced very cheaply. Analyzing reams of data late at night in his office, Mr. Paulson became convinced investors were far underestimating the risk in the mortgage market. In betting on it to crumble, "I've never been involved in a trade that had such unlimited upside with a very limited downside," he says.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: creditdefaultswaps; hedgefund; paulson; soros
How much of the TARP money is used by the banks and other underwriters to pay this guy off? This guy Paulson has been making billions off of the mortgage crisis for a couple of years. Who else, I wonder.
1 posted on 01/16/2009 10:05:09 PM PST by Tellurian
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To: Tellurian

Who is benefitting?

George Soros, the Rockefellers, the Mellons, the Democrat party.

It sure isn’t the homeowner. Their still being evicted by foreclosure actions at a record rate that is accelerating.


2 posted on 01/16/2009 10:23:51 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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"The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. reached a preliminary agreement to sell the remains of IndyMac Bank -- one of the biggest bank failures in U.S. history -- to a team of high-profile investors, suggesting there is private money willing to invest in troubled banks if the government agrees to shoulder heavy losses.

"The investment team, which includes affiliates of private-equity chieftain Christopher Flowers, hedge-fund investors George Soros and John Paulson, and computer mogul Michael Dell, will contribute $1.3 billion in capital toward a purchase of IndyMac Federal Bank. The investor group and the government also agreed to share ...

Link to a recent WSJ article

Yup, it looks like Soros has teamed up with J. Paulson to feast on the carcass of IndyMac, with government guarantees of course ...

3 posted on 01/16/2009 10:38:00 PM PST by Tellurian
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To: Tellurian

Only the strong survive. When the going gets tough, the tough do what it takes to survive.

And then there are these(they should put these up in the public schools):

Exodus 22:25 If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

Leviticus 25:36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.

Leviticus 25:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

Deuteronomy 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:

Deuteronomy 23:20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Nehemiah 5:7 Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

Nehemiah 5:10 I likewise, and my brethren, and my servants, might exact of them money and corn: I pray you, let us leave off this usury.

Psalm 15:5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

Proverbs 28:8 He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.

Isaiah 24:2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

Jeremiah 15:10 Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; yet every one of them doth curse me.

Ezekiel 18:8 He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,

Ezekiel 18:13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

Ezekiel 18:17 That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

Ezekiel 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbors by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.


4 posted on 01/16/2009 11:41:50 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tellurian

> Yup, it looks like Soros has teamed up with J. Paulson to
> feast on the carcass of IndyMac, with government
> guarantees of course ...

Well, I got one of the names right.

As for Michael Dell, I will avoid his products like the plague from now on. I’ll buy HP or make my own from piece parts. Most of the computers in my house are “Frankensteins”.


5 posted on 01/16/2009 11:56:19 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook

government is benefiting.
i teach high school and my paycheck is not in danger yet.
government employees are almost completely immune from market forces.


6 posted on 01/17/2009 12:22:37 AM PST by genghis
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> government employees are almost completely immune from market forces.

As a teacher, you will benefit by keeping your 5-figure salary.

Benefits to Soros and his buddies will exceed 12 digits (hundreds of billions).


7 posted on 01/17/2009 12:41:52 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Force of Truth
Isaiah 24:2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

I didn't know there were so many biblical references to usury! The one you found (above) seems to be hopeful, though, as I read it anyway, that mutual respect shall be established at some point.

For now, however, there are too many people, especially those with political stations, that find ways to make their life superior at the expense of others: cushy government pensions; excessive, untracked, and untaxed government per diems; regulatory favoritism; and the list goes on. And they know they're taking unfair advantages, but don't admit it, and don't care 'cause they think they'll never be held accountable.

8 posted on 01/17/2009 12:03:29 PM PST by Tellurian (Perception is interesting. Truth is overwhelming.)
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To: Westbrook

“It sure isn’t the homeowner.

It isn’t? I’ve been buying stocks dirt cheap and have been looking at homes that have come down in price over $250K! Car prices are way down so we are looking to buy a Jeep cheap. Anyone with a job will benefit as this economy tanks. Of course, ya gotta keep that job.


9 posted on 01/17/2009 6:50:43 PM PST by CodeToad
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