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Diverse It Gets - El Cid
RFU ^ | El Cid

Posted on 01/23/2009 4:05:24 AM PST by nateriver

Sounds like "El Cid" wants to replace nonsense with commonsense.

"I am angrier than a women’s libber without a bra to burn over this whole diversity nonsense. I am especially peeved about being forced to attend sexual diversity harassment training. It seems like everyone in America has been brainwashed into thinking that diversity is the greatest thing since sliced bread."

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TOPICS: Education; Freeoples; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: civilrightsact; diversity; freedom; goldwater; tyranny

1 posted on 01/23/2009 4:05:25 AM PST by nateriver
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To: nateriver

>>>I am angrier than a women’s libber without a bra to burn

Maybe El Cid’s next seminar can tell him it’s no longer 1969.


2 posted on 01/23/2009 4:12:58 AM PST by tlb
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To: nateriver

New suggestion for a Diversity motto: “Divided We Stand.”


3 posted on 01/23/2009 4:19:46 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: nateriver

It seems like everyone in America has been brainwashed into thinking that diversity is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

“It used to be called re-education. The communist and socialist have used it for many many decades to put thier population where they want them and to keep them there.
America has always been a diverse nation. The difference lies in the fact that those diverse peoples that came her years ago did so to become Americans and blend into the melting pot. Being American was the goal, what it was all about. Currently being America is akin to be a criminal.
We are supposed to become European Lite and that means having all these little groups maintaining their own cultures. langauges and laws competing with one another within the borders of one area. Think France


4 posted on 01/23/2009 4:21:09 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: nateriver
I am angrier than a women’s libber without a bra to burn

Ed Anger, is that you?
5 posted on 01/23/2009 4:24:38 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: nateriver
One of the reasons behind Japan's long growth and tech advancement since we blew 2 cities away half a century ago is that they are not diverse. The majority is the majority, and there is less bickering because most people are largely the same. This isn't always a good thing, but at least everyone wants to get along and move in a better direction as one.
6 posted on 01/23/2009 4:46:19 AM PST by 50sDad (WARNING: This thread may result in several billion posts.)
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To: nateriver

Just discovered this thread. El Cid’s absolutely correct. So called “diversity” has destroyed and is destroying a great nation. And indeed, the 1964 Goldwater was vastly superior to the one who went senile in the 1990s.


7 posted on 04/18/2009 7:43:19 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: nateriver

Just post the whole things. Sort of makes more sense in context.

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I am angrier than a women’s libber without a bra to burn over this whole diversity nonsense. I am especially peeved about being forced to attend sexual diversity harassment training. It seems like everyone in America has been brainwashed into thinking that diversity is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It isn’t. Our national motto is “out of many, one” - not the other way around (as Al Gore likes to say it.)

If I filed a lawsuit every time someone called me a Mexican or some nice looking young lady at work groped me, I would be a wealthy man. And why shouldn’t I sue? Isn’t the right not to be offended enshrined in the penumbras of the constitution? (Third amendment I think, but you have to read between the lines to see it.)

As a public service, allow me to boil down the status of current sexual harassment and diversity law for Regular Folks, who were just raised to treat everyone equally and with respect (which is now illegal in most instances). If you do any of the following to someone and they take offense, you will be sued. Banned activities now include: looking, complimenting, standing too close, touching, using nicknames, making sounds, facial expressions, hand gestures, giving gifts, sending e-mail, following, etc.

You can get fired, sued, or drawn and quartered for any of these at work or on your own time if done to a boss, co-worker, subordinate, customer, client, vendor, the guy you buy your coffee from in the mornings, etc. There is literally no limit to your liability. Absolutely anything you do that some loon happens to take offense at makes you, your employer, your yet unborn great grandchildren, and everyone you have ever met liable.

The best part is that there is no defense because the crime is entirely in the eye of the complainer. If someone claims to have been offended, that is literally enough for a company to take action. Even if you don’t get fired or sued, the accusation itself will become an albatross around your neck for as long as you have to work for a living.

This is just the sexual harassment stuff. The racial/ethnic/sexual preference/transgender/religious/political affiliation/matriculation/legal status/age/appearance/disability diversity stuff is almost worse. I won’t even go into how wrong, evil, and racist affirmative action policies are. The whole idea that I have to value diversity makes me sick. The very premise is racist and implies that there are innate differences between certain groups based on their race which make them better or worse at some things.

When liberals talk about diversity, they never mean diversity of experience or background or knowledge or skills, they mean black/brown/red/white (actually whites are excluded)/yellow and male/female. This is the most superficial and least important thing about any individual. Who brings more diversity to the table: a white guy who grew up in Mexico and speaks Spanish or a third generation Cuban-American who has trouble ordering at Taco Bell?

The problem with anti-discrimination and sexual harassment laws is too big to fix. We need a do-over. We need to get rid of these laws altogether and tell people who are too delicate to be in the workplace to go home and shut up.

When the 1964 Civil Rights Act was being debated, Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater famously and passionately spoke out against the proposed law. Not because he was a southern-racist-Democrat, but because he recognized that the law was wrong and evil and restricted our freedom of speech, our freedom of assembly, and our God-given right to be jerks to each other.

Senator Goldwater did vote for laws that made it illegal for government (federal, state and local) to discriminate on the basis of race, but the Civil Rights Act, as we all well know, went a lot further. It barred private individuals from discriminating against protected groups. Of course, being a politician, Sen. Goldwater eventually caved to the pressure from the media and public opinion and recanted his opposition to the Civil Rights Act.

Well, Barry was right the first time around. The Civil Rights Act didn’t get into sexual harassment laws, but it opened the door for them and they are just as wrong. I know what you are thinking: “We can’t allow employers or businesses to discriminate against women and minorities.” Yes we can, if the alternative is worse, and it is.

Let’s take a worst case scenario. Say a boss flirts repeatedly with his secretary and she takes offense. That is clearly illegal and she can sue. But what if he is just a horrible boss and micromanages her and overworks her and gives her no raises and is just plain rude? Both situations may be equally unbearable but the latter is legal and the former is not. In my opinion, her only recourse in both cases should be the same. Find another job. This is my solution even if a boss tells his secretary that she either sleeps with him or she is fired. What if he gropes her, you ask? That is assault and may even be felony sexual battery depending on the circumstances. In that case, she should go to the police.

Racial discrimination is especially appalling, but should it be illegal? Would you frequent a restaurant or any business that was whites-only and had a big sign out front stating their policy? Most regular folks would not. Such an establishment would have a very limited clientele and such a policy would hardly be a recipe for economic success for a business. When private businesses discriminate, they pay a real economic cost. The problem of racial discrimination in public establishments (restaurants, hotels, etc.) is self-correcting.

An employer, or potential employer, could discriminate against me because I am fat, or ugly, or dumb, or he doesn’t like my clothes, or my haircut, or my shoes, or where I went to school, or what state I am from. He may mistreat me for any of these reasons legally (in most states). My only recourse is to find another job. That would be my option as well if I were to face racial discrimination.

In the end, that is why I do not and will never complain or sue about being sexually or ethnically/racially harassed or discriminated against - because there is something more important. Freedom.


8 posted on 04/18/2009 7:45:35 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Favorite quote:

“When the 1964 Civil Rights Act was being debated, Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater famously and passionately spoke out against the proposed law. Not because he was a southern-racist-Democrat, but because he recognized that the law was wrong and evil and restricted our freedom of speech, our freedom of assembly, and our God-given right to be jerks to each other.”

Amen. I know the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s was originally intended to correct mistreatment of blacks in our nation. But the unintended consequences from 1970s onward(mainly abortions, one-sided glorification of unbiblical sexuality, the silly idea that men and women are absolutely identical in all instances, “hate-crimes” legislation, government intrusion and restriction of religious liberties and other liberties, the erosion of private property rights and a general Big Brother government growth to ensure everyone is being “good”) have made me wonder in retrospect if there couldn’t have been another and better way to attain the well intended goal of treating blacks with dignity and respect than the path that was actually followed.


9 posted on 04/18/2009 7:57:46 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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