[tacticalogic]

Uhh, this is science we're talking about here.

I don't think so.

If you Believe in spite all of that, or if you believe that LeGrande sincerely believes, then the only conclusion I can come to is that you're of the same religion (Atheism, Naturalism, whatever it may be) of LeGrande and you'd take just about any absurd thing by faith if it was said by someone of your religion. I thought you might have practiced some logic at some point in your history, judging by the looks of your nickname.

This is about going after people because of their religious belifs, and I'm not going to help you do that.

[Fichori]

“This is about going after people because of their religious belifs, and I'm not going to help you do that.”

Yes, LeGrande's belief about 2.1°, Al Gore's belief about Glowbull Worming, Darwin's belief about the Origin of Species...

All religious beliefs.

[mrjesse]

Said MrJesse: Uhh, this is science we're talking about here.

Replied tacticalogic: I don't think so.

Huh? Whether the sun appears at any point in time 2.1 degrees behind its actual position is not science? Whether Pluto is below the horizon when it appears overhead is not science?

This is about going after people because of their religious belifs, and I'm not going to help you do that.

I'm not asking anyone to go after anyone because of their religious beliefs! I'm not even asking anyone to go after someone's religious beliefs! I'm asking you, as a logical thinking person, to go after somebody's false scientific claims!

The only reason I brought up religious beliefs is because for some strange and magical reason you won't call to task LeGrande on his false scientific claims -- and I can't figure out any reason that you won't take a stand against LeGrande's obvious lie -- except that maybe it's because you and he belong to the same religion and therefore won't call to task a "Brother in the faith" or whatever you want to call it. But if I'm wrong, by all means tell me why you won't take a stand against a lie!

And for the record I don't care one bit what somebody's religion is when it comes to their scientific claims when they say that the sun's apparent position is lagged by 2.1 degrees from its actual position for an observer on earth at an instant in time - I will then have all the same questions as I do to LeGrande.

So, please explain, in your own words, how come you won't take a stand against LeGrande's false claim? Why?

-Jesse