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To: wagglebee
I’ve made few statements regarding my opinion of the theory of evolution. In the end, it is either true or it is false and NO AMOUNT of debate can change that.

My problem with Darwinists has ALWAYS been their anti-God agenda and eugenics. Darwinists systematically ignore the fact that Darwinism has been responsible for over ONE BILLION UNNECESSARY DEATHS in the past century.

“… their anti-God agenda” is unsupported. There are some who accept the Theory of Evolution who are atheist, and some who are not. Eugenics has nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution. You blithely assign all those unnecessary deaths to “Darwinism,” but the logic appears to be of the post hoc, ergo propter hoc variety.

The Pope spoke talk about the necessity of accepting LEGITIMATE science. He DID NOT talk about blindly accepting science to push an agenda and he certainly didn’t condone the murder of over 125,000 innocent human beings A DAY.

Read what he wrote. He accepts the Theory of Evolution as legitimate science. Your attributing every mass murder since 1859 is duly noted and dismissed. Shall we share the credit for the Holocost with Martin Luther?

I don’t dispute that in the beginning Charles Darwin was simply writing about his own observations, but his family quickly transformed Darwinism to a force of evil. Neither Karl Marx nor Charles Darwin wrote about killing people, but their philosophies quickly became to the pillars of evil in the Western world.

Fallacy of adverse consequences. The Theory of Evolution is an observation of how nature works. If some jackass misuses it and twists it, that in no way affects the validity of the observation or the theory.

138 posted on 01/28/2009 5:50:52 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
Eugenics has nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution. You blithely assign all those unnecessary deaths to “Darwinism,” but the logic appears to be of the post hoc, ergo propter hoc variety.

No, if you read my post carefully, you will see that I am speaking of Darwinists and not just evolutionists. Saying that eugenicists aren't Darwinists is like saying that the Nazis weren't socialists.

Your attributing every mass murder since 1859 is duly noted and dismissed. Shall we share the credit for the Holocost with Martin Luther?

Really, they were all faithful Darwinists.

Fallacy of adverse consequences. The Theory of Evolution is an observation of how nature works. If some jackass misuses it and twists it, that in no way affects the validity of the observation or the theory.

Go back and read what I wrote, I wasn't speaking about evolutionary theory. Darwinists use the theory of evolution as a diversion the same way 20th century communists used Marxism as a diversion.

148 posted on 01/28/2009 5:59:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gumlegs
Fallacy of adverse consequences. The Theory of Evolution is an observation of how nature works. If some jackass misuses it and twists it, that in no way affects the validity of the observation or the theory.

No, but that still doesn't do anything for those screwed by the jackass's misuse. See also nuclear proliferation.

The problem is that instead of using creation vs. evolution in class to illustrate the differences between scientific methodology and scholasticism or religious faith, many pro-evos try to eliminate religious discussion altogether, or to curtail it altogether.

The problem is a knotty one, and involves such things as religious pluralism, the so-called "separation of Church ad State", and how one goes about gaining consensus when a society goes from majority Christian to merely plurality Christian; and the possible co-opting of legitimate concerns of scientists, by Gramscians and others, to eliminate the role of Christian faith in public life and consciousness.

If Coyote had simply NOT told another poster to shut up (he started the thread, but does not have that authority), and then hadn't mouthed off in full Matt Damon mode to Jim Robinson, he'd still be here.

Cheers!

244 posted on 01/28/2009 7:29:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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