>>I won’t call Dawinism “Darwinism” when you all stop mis-calling Creation Theory/I.D. “relgion”!<<
What term would be better for I.D. - philosophy? metaphysics?
I don’t of a better term for the supposition of a supreme being without scientific evidence than “religion.”
another reason it tends to get called religion is that almost 100% of the proponents are religious and seem to approach the issue from a religion P.O.V.
A third reason is groups like the Discovery institute deliberately using I.D. to try to sneak religion into science class.
“don’t of a better term for the supposition of a supreme being without scientific evidence than “religion.””
That may be the conclusion behind it (when the science is realized), however that is NOT the real scientific evidence behind ID/Creation Theory.
“almost 100% of the proponents are religious and seem to approach the issue from a religion P.O.V.”: So what? Just becuase a scientist happens to be “religious” (code word Fundamentalist Christian), does that mean that he doesn’t have right to use science: DOES HE SUDDENLY CHANGE (natural principles, which God has put in place-PHYSICS, etc..)? DOES HE FUDGE/CHEAT: NO (this was rhetorical)!
I don’t give a care what some groups do, the real science behind it is sound!
[[I don’t of a better term for the supposition of a supreme being without scientific evidence than “religion.”]]
IF that’s what ID was about- then you’d have a pouint- but whereas ID makes no such claism abotu who or what the intelligence behind hte evidence that points to the NEED for intelligence, then your point is irrelevent when describing ID. You are free to call ID exactly what it is- A Scietnific discipl;ine- You are not however free to try to falsely impugne ID claiming it is somethign that it isn’t- without being called on it.
[[another reason it tends to get called religion is that almost 100% of the proponents are religious and seem to approach the issue from a religion P.O.V.]]
This simpyl is not true- there are many that still think nature is the itnellgience, and who are agnostic- and besides- who cares (other than those who try to disparage the science) whether these folks are religious or not? What has that got to do with hte science?- Nothing whatsoever- that’s what.
[[A third reason is groups like the Discovery institute deliberately using I.D. to try to sneak religion into science class.]]
I see you are bringign DC lies over here- This is false- DI has made it clear that are NOT tryign to do this and infact they are actively campaigning NOT to do this
[[What term would be better for I.D. - philosophy? metaphysics?
I don’t of a better term for the supposition of a supreme being without scientific evidence than “religion.”
another reason it tends to get called religion is that almost 100% of the proponents are religious and seem to approach the issue from a religion P.O.V.
A third reason is groups like the Discovery institute deliberately using I.D. to try to sneak religion into science class.]]
you know Gondram- The problem with tryign to have any sort of intelligent discussions here about science is the FACT that people like you keep interjecting assinine pat accusations like your above statements which have absolutely no connection with reality. While this particular thread has devolved into this type of ‘discussion’ and is hopelessly sidetracked., the point is that you folks simply can not apparently discuss anythign without injecting some assinine petty accusaitons that are blatantly false.
It woudl be nice to have discussiosn here on FR without constantly havign the threads derailed and sidetracked with folks having to constantly refute rediculous claims like you made- but apaprently you folks simply can’t get past your loathign of anythign not connected with naturalism
now, I’m sure you have quite a lot of knowledge and can contribute to threads in a meaningful and civil manner if you want, but I’ve not seen the effort on your part either here or in the past. Those on DC complain about FR being anti-science- but the only antiscience i EVER see here on FR are peopel from DC, and folks like htose from DC constantly disrupting htreads with assinine accusations, false examples of ‘macroevolution’ petty bickering etc.