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Police Kill Family Dog During Raid (yet another isolated incident)
ABC News ^ | 2/7/09 | Jeff Hager

Posted on 02/07/2009 3:04:18 PM PST by ellery

"They hit the door right here and the door flew open," says Mike Hasenei, standing outside his Elkridge home.

His wife, Phyllis, was watching television with her 12-year old daughter when members of the Howard County Police Tactical Team came through the door.

"They had guns pointed at us. You have 25 guys coming in here all dressed in black and all that we saw were their eyes, and they're screaming 'Hands in the air!'"

Members of the team were acting upon a tip that an assault rifle, magazines and hollow-point bullets stolen from a marked police car the night before may be located inside.

Adding insult to injury, when the search led police to a back bedroom where they encountered the family’s dog, they opened fire.

Officers found no evidence of the stolen goods after ransacking the house.

At this point a complaint has been logged against the department, but Howard County Police aren't about to admit they were wrong or to apologize for their actions.

"No. We didn't find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house."

Now, Mike Hasenei is waiting on an Internal Affairs investigation into the raid before deciding whether he and his family will take the department to court.

"I'm not gonna sit down and let people walk all over me and say 'sorry' and walk out of my house."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; banglist; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; jbts; killthejackboots; leo; lp; lping; policestate; rapeofliberty; streetganginblue; swat; thugswithbadges; warondogs
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Yet another "win" in the War on Dogs.
1 posted on 02/07/2009 3:04:18 PM PST by ellery
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To: bamahead

ping.


2 posted on 02/07/2009 3:04:41 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker; Travis McGee
“but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house."

Right. Must have flushed the evidence down the toilet.

3 posted on 02/07/2009 3:06:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: ellery

I need to know what kind of dog it was before I decide if this upsets me.


4 posted on 02/07/2009 3:07:31 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Because canine AIDS ain't funny.)
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To: ellery
An interesting link for those interested in this general topic. A bit incomplete yes and they don't have a 'shot the dog' map, but some might be interested.
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/index.php?type=1
5 posted on 02/07/2009 3:07:53 PM PST by allmost
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To: ellery
The only people who don't do drugs are those who can't handle unreality.

6 posted on 02/07/2009 3:09:51 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Feline_AIDS

The reports I’ve seen say Australian Cattle Dog, hiding in the bedroom.


7 posted on 02/07/2009 3:10:00 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: allmost

I try to post that on every thread of this nature. Thanks for the help. We need as many as possible to see that.


8 posted on 02/07/2009 3:10:34 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: I see my hands

What does this story have to do with drugs?


9 posted on 02/07/2009 3:10:36 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

Everyone knows where Elkridge and Howard County are. [Little irony and sarcasm there.]


10 posted on 02/07/2009 3:10:55 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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To: ellery
Do you have any more info? Or is this it?
Is the guy a gang banger or the local deacon?
Has he been arrested before? Arrested for violent crimes? Does he live in a nice neighborhood or the ‘hood’?
How did the Gestapo jack booted thugs pick his house in the first place?

Before the hysterics start and the gossip between the back fence of the trailer park results in spilled beer, perhaps judgment can be reserved until more is known about the assassination of the Chihuahua.

11 posted on 02/07/2009 3:11:10 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: ellery
"No. We didn't find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information...

That's exactly what it means. The information was no good. Also, if its a couple of weapons, why not send a heavily armed team but do a knock on the door service of the search warrant? You don't need 25 guys.

12 posted on 02/07/2009 3:11:27 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: ellery
"No. We didn't find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house."

Sorry, Spokeswoman Sherry. The fact that nothing was found means exactly that "there wasn't good information ..."

Just curious. Does anyone reading this trust your government?

13 posted on 02/07/2009 3:11:32 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: ellery

This crap won’t stop till cops start to die instead of us or our pets. The fact that now anything will bring down these no-knock raids is bad news for all of us.


14 posted on 02/07/2009 3:11:37 PM PST by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: ellery
"I'm not gonna sit down and let people walk all over me and say 'sorry' and walk out of my house."

There would be a large number of cops looking over their shoulders every single day for the rest of their lives had this happened to my family.

L

15 posted on 02/07/2009 3:11:45 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ellery

Under ‘the one,’ this crap is bound to increase.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: FreedomPoster

If they had a ‘shot the dog’ map it would probably cover entire states.


17 posted on 02/07/2009 3:14:17 PM PST by allmost
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To: IrishCatholic

Uh, isn’t the fact that they didn’t find anything enough of a concern for you?

But since you asked, here are some more links. The man involved is a computer analyst for Mariott. In addition to killing his dog, they cuffed his twelve year old daughter.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/020609_dog_killed_during_raid

http://wjz.com/local/warrant.search.house.2.928336.html

http://www.ohmidog.com/2009/02/07/another-maryland-swat-team-kills-a-dog/


18 posted on 02/07/2009 3:17:03 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Lurker

Damn straight Lurker. I can’t really say anything, though, for the most part I have only dealed with the good cops. Of course, they respected that I was military.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 3:18:33 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: allmost

Wonder if it was Dog the bounty hunter that got wacked


20 posted on 02/07/2009 3:19:02 PM PST by shadeaud (Time to smell the roses and not the stench coming from D .C.)
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To: IrishCatholic

“Before the hysterics start and the gossip between the back fence of the trailer park results in spilled beer, perhaps judgment can be reserved until more is known about the assassination of the Chihuahua.”


Owning or renting a manufactured home makes so much difference, assassination? Chihuahua? spilled beer? nice neighborhood or not?

You sound like a really low class person, no matter what your income is.


21 posted on 02/07/2009 3:23:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: ellery
Ah, the Police state of the People's Republic of Maryland.

Thank god my parent got us out of that place.

22 posted on 02/07/2009 3:24:21 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: ellery

No, facts are preferable when you don’t have an agenda.

Thanks for the links. If you want to prove a point, try leading with them next time.


23 posted on 02/07/2009 3:24:27 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: ansel12

Who says your opinion matters?
What you think of me doesn’t stress me at all.


24 posted on 02/07/2009 3:30:01 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: RobinOfKingston

“anyone reading this trust your government?”

I wonder how many decades ago it was when I did trust the government. I think it was back in high school, before I knew our government.

I have never distrusted the government more than I do now.

Disturbing development number one thousand happened yesterday, when it was made public that The Fuhrer wants Rahm Emmanuel’s dirty hands on the next Census. Oh, nothing suspicious about that is there? Nah.


25 posted on 02/07/2009 3:30:42 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (That's Mrs.Chief Master Sgt. to you sonny.)
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To: ellery
Hmmm... Did it try to bite?
26 posted on 02/07/2009 3:31:32 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Because canine AIDS ain't funny.)
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To: ellery
I wonder how long it will be when a homeowner fires back ... runs to where his gun is and opens fire on these people ...

Australian Shepard just like my Border Collie ... smartest gentlest dogs around .... higher IQ's than most cops ....

27 posted on 02/07/2009 3:31:43 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: ellery
This happens all the time. Dogs are protective of their home and their owners, and the cops don't want to get bitten, so they eliminate the problem.

I have instructed my wife that if a cop ever comes to the house, the first thing to do is put the dog in its crate. Of course, if they break into the house suddenly, that may not be possible.....

28 posted on 02/07/2009 3:32:46 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ellery
"No. We didn't find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house."

Possible defamation. She's saying the Hasenei family is guilty, regardless of the results of the raid.

29 posted on 02/07/2009 3:34:31 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: packrat35

They may be testing their ability to get away with it. If they can get away with such blatant destruction of private property then how easily will they be able to kill political dissenters? That day seems to be getting closer and closer.


30 posted on 02/07/2009 3:34:37 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: IrishCatholic

LOL, Gotcha!


31 posted on 02/07/2009 3:35:45 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: Soothesayer

See post 5.


32 posted on 02/07/2009 3:36:03 PM PST by allmost
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To: ellery

What is it with swat teams and their penchant for shooting dogs? Is it just that in the absence of anyone or anything else to shoot they just have to shoot the dogs? Ban all no Knock raids, period, they are unconstitutional and need to be stopped NOW. My parents would not have stood for this kind of sh** and I don’t see why we do.


33 posted on 02/07/2009 3:36:28 PM PST by calex59
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To: Feline_AIDS

Wow, are you like trying to be funny with like, your stupid posts kid?


34 posted on 02/07/2009 3:36:34 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: ellery

“No. We didn’t find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn’t mean that there wasn’t good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house.”

I heard from a reliable source that Sherry Llewellyn had the gun. Now go search her house.

That is all it takes to bring out the “Rambo’s” in LEO’s.


35 posted on 02/07/2009 3:36:46 PM PST by hadaclueonce (< Patching a tire ....)
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To: ellery

Paging Henry Bowman...Please pick the white courtesy phone


36 posted on 02/07/2009 3:38:14 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: savedbygrace
Possible defamation. She's saying the Hasenei family is guilty, regardless of the results of the raid.

Ever notice when someone is let go they always say "we didn't have enough evidence to support a conviction"

It's never, we had the wrong person or he didn't do it.

Everyone they arrest is guilty, they just didn't have enough (read no) evidence.

37 posted on 02/07/2009 3:41:12 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: SkyDancer

Yep, the only dog gentler is a golden retriever. The frickin’ gestapo is obviously programmed to always shoot the family dog regardless of what it is. Don’t you just know the 12 yo in this case is going to have a wonderful view of cops in general? Yep, sarcasm intended.


38 posted on 02/07/2009 3:41:47 PM PST by calex59
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Coming to a state near you!


39 posted on 02/07/2009 3:41:52 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: IrishCatholic
Before the hysterics start and the gossip between the back fence of the trailer park results in spilled beer, perhaps judgment can be reserved until more is known about the assassination of the Chihuahua.

Maybe you should take some of your own advice...

Personal attacks simply show weakness. Plus it is easy to be nasty on a computer. But it is still bad manners.

40 posted on 02/07/2009 3:42:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

and your mother too!


41 posted on 02/07/2009 3:42:16 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: calex59

I have read so many stories of cops going to the wrong house and the first thing they did was shoot the family dog. There was a mayor who was set up and the cops came in and shot one Lab, the other took off and tried to hide ... the cops ran it down and shot it too .... the mayor was innocent ... trouble is no followup by the media ... but then, it always happens the cops are in the right ....


42 posted on 02/07/2009 3:45:10 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: ellery

and there is not a damn thing any lowly citizen can do about it.


43 posted on 02/07/2009 3:46:05 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: ellery
If someone, anyone, breaks down my door, guns drown, and refuses to ID themselves, I'm aiming for the head.

They may take me down, but I'll send at least 3 of them to Hell first!

44 posted on 02/07/2009 3:52:45 PM PST by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: Soothesayer

Nothing one can do. If 25 armed cops burst into your home and you fire on one of them, you and probably your family are going to go down in a hail of bullets.


45 posted on 02/07/2009 3:55:22 PM PST by WVNan
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To: WVNan

That’s why you plan for every possible scenario. Just don’t get paranoid about it.


46 posted on 02/07/2009 3:57:09 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: ellery

These are the same pigs who will be coming for our guns someday.


47 posted on 02/07/2009 3:58:53 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Maybe the cops “thought” it was a cat....


48 posted on 02/07/2009 3:58:53 PM PST by joelt
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To: ellery
The Judge and all 25 members of this assault should have their houses subjected to such a ransacking, if their pets gets killed so much the better.

I would call it sensitivity training.

There is no reason to ransack, unless you have a complete and utter lack of respect for the property of others. In such a case you are scum, not worthy of respect.

49 posted on 02/07/2009 4:00:13 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: ellery

Sadly, I have a family member who was a former narcotics officer. In one raid (they were raiding relatives of a dealer, none of whom were involved in the drug trade) he held the homeowner down by stepping on his neck as he lay on the couch, with his gun pointed at the man. The man said “If my dog growls don’t worry. He won’t hurt you.”

My relative turned and shot the dog who had not yet moved or made a sound.

Something happens to too many of these guys that I simply cannot explain.


50 posted on 02/07/2009 4:02:31 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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