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You've hit on something that's been bothering us for a long time now. Of the six of me and my siblings, two of us turned out different. Actually, we and our families are different. We've decided to live in the country because we've observed that population centers always cause the same problems and that living in the country affords us the benefits of SUSTAINABLE food! I don't want to turn this into a religious discussion, but in my house we believe that the four most important things (in order of precedence) are -

1. Trust in The Lord (no matter WHAT!).
2. Clean water.
3. Clothing/Shelter (protection from the elements).
4. Food.

The above four things are also in order of precedence and getting them out of order can cause real and big problems.

What we've observed is that too many people are too lacking in intestinal fortitude and simple skills. We've got three youngsters (all teens) here in the house and by the time they were each "about" 8 years old, they had been trained into useful skills. They could all shoot the 1911 .45ACP, as well as the AR-15... but shooting and defense is only "part" of it. We have a saying around here...and that is that EVERYTHING is liable to be categorized as FOOD. We joke by saying that if "it" stays still long enough, we'll skin it and eat it! :-) But now these guys here (and one gal!) have only increased in skill level. Between the three of them, they herd goats and sheep...which means milking the critters and making cheese...and butchering and putting up meat. They also raise chickens...from START to FINISH. Two of them are EXPERT builders. They operate chainsaws, the woodsplitter and KNOW how to maintain it all. Their Mom taught them to "correctly" grow food...and they can take it from the garden to the can! They can take game (of ANY type!) from the woods to the stove top!....and one of them is a very, VERY good cook! :-)

But we overlap with a large section of people (because of what I do professionally) and what we see in these people disturbs us. These people have no skills, they live in debt, and probably worst of all... their "backup plan" is to simply know somebody like us! I've spoken to a few of them about this and asked them why they didn't consider that we also have a "backup plan" and they always give me this bewildered look. I ask them if they honestly think we're going to be where we're at now if the proverbial doo-doo hits the fan? I can tell by the looks on their faces that they hadn't thought about this! They ask where we're going to be, but I don't tell that to anybody except a very few, and they're "like" us.

My point here is that too many people are woefully unprepared. The adults who lived through the last depression were of a heartier stock. The population centers were much less densely populated as well. Now we've got these amazing DENSE population centers jam packed full of people who's only "backup plan" is knowing people like us? Hmmmm...let's think about that for a minute! Plus, the population centers have a high ratio of not so nice people anyway. So you mix the "not so nice people" with the unprepared people (who mostly also don't believe in firearms)...and mix that with even a little bit of socio-economic collapse, and it's makes for a wicked brew indeed!

I know from talking to people now who lived through the great depression that they knew people who were unskilled and unprepared. But they agree that there are many, MANY times more today (ratio-wise) than there were the first time...and while they can't say exactly what this is going to cause, we all agree that it's NOT going to be good!...at least not in worldly terms.

Great comment. I’m printing it out and mailing it to my two brothers and two sisters. You have a wonderful world view and system for living. It would be great to see you interviewed on Dave Ramsey’s show. Of course the people who need to, don’t watch shows like that.

God Bless You and Yours.

We have the same problem, 5 of us and only 2 are able to live in the country and survive on what we have.

They all have the same mother and father, who both were able to stretch things and make things that did not cost an arm and a leg.

They are taught in school and on the tv that they must be modern and up to date.

They have no God, no love of family and if you read it, the communist manifesto from 1963 was written with this goal on purpose.

Listen to your police scanners, you can on the internet, it is already happening, they take what they want, it is not all money for drugs that is the goal for the robber.

For people like us, we are not what they want to see, the weak ones, who want a handout, are the ones who votes the crooks in office over and over.

New Orleans is a fine example of what can be done to people, they even voted the mayor back in.

There is already killing on our streets for no real reason and it is getting worse.

But we overlap with a large section of people (because of what I do professionally) and what we see in these people disturbs us. These people have no skills, they live in debt, and probably worst of all... their "backup plan" is to simply know somebody like us! I've spoken to a few of them about this and asked them why they didn't consider that we also have a "backup plan" and they always give me this bewildered look. I ask them if they honestly think we're going to be where we're at now if the proverbial doo-doo hits the fan? I can tell by the looks on their faces that they hadn't thought about this! They ask where we're going to be, but I don't tell that to anybody except a very few, and they're "like" us.

Gotta love it.....

Ping!

1. Trust in The Lord (no matter WHAT!).
2. Clean water.
3. Clothing/Shelter (protection from the elements).

4. Food.

In the precise, correct order HH!

You see what I see happening within the next year (IMHO)! It's going to get outright nasty, and medieval in the urban areas.

We are prepared... (and twelve miles from the closest small hamlet!)