It Was A Good Run For Our Republic - Here is an idea below that may give us one last chance.

n/a | 2/13/09 | A Navy Vet

[A Navy Vet]

The US Constitution is toast with this "porkulus bill" shoved down our throats in secrecy, we are now pretty much guaranteed that our Republic is gone. It's been coming for some time, as many of us have been warning. The Utopians in Congress and the Obama Branch have done so much harm to our Republic in these first few weeks they have been in power it is now obvious that we are losing the political battle for our Nation.

History has shown that "power corrupts absolutely". However, that very axiom has also shown, once realized, that it can be the catalyst for change. Maybe, just maybe, with their absolute power they won't see my suggestion below coming at them...just give me a moment to explain.

THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT:

Those who would still fight, what recourse do you have?
Voting? How's that worked out for us so far without term-limits which would take a Constitutional Amendment?
Marches on DC? Right, like enough conservatives can get together to make a difference.
Civil disobedience? As if everyday working stiffs will risk being arrested for barging into the Congressional chambers and committees. No-load liberals spray-paint the Capitol steps and are willing to be dragged off in handcuffs - they see it as badge of honor. Joe-Six-Pac-SoccorMom wouldn't. We have families to contend with.
Rebellion by militia? Not even a consideration. The first rebels would be made an "example" by the local SWAT or National Guard units.

So you say, what then?. Well, I may have a possible answer: Here it is...

Support existing organizations and/or create a new organization with massive cash infusions to build bullet-proof LAWSUITS against the onslaught of unConstitutional legislation. Take every single oppressive unConstitutional law and regulation and executive order to COURT! Base every effort on not only the literal translation of the US Constitution, but the very INTENT of those who wrote the document! There is a plethora of correspondence between the Founding Fathers to PROVE their intent in the final creation of our Constitution.

That is our last hope. Yes, some lawsuits may not make it past the local federal courts or the appellate courts; some will. But then the USSC may accept some and not accept to review others and kick them back down to the appellates for what ever technical reason. That is why the lawsuits would have to be once again, written in bullet-proof language that is highly researched and proves the INTENT of our Founding Fathers as mentioned above.

We recently had a somewhat of a good ruling from the USSC regarding the individual right to own weapons. It wasn't perfect and should have expanded in many areas, but it was a small win. We can do the same with other obvious unConstitutional legislation.

What say you folks? Any interest in researching those orgs who have been the most successful and supporting them with dollars? Or maybe we need an entirely new legal org that is not caught up in DC politics. Personally, I believe we need a new dedicated highly professional legal entity to forward such lawsuits.

This is possibly our last and best hope for our Republic. A Constitutional Law Union (CLU), for the lack of a better name could be our ONLY hope in fighting for the last of our Republic. It could be based in part on the various Constitutional organizations that currently exist.

It would take money; high-level organizers; dedicated lawyers; high-visibility pundits; dedicated and capable volunteers, and again, a huge amount of money. But, I believe this to be doable.

Think about it. Think about how the ACLU wins so many lawsuits against our heritage and traditions. If they can do it, why can't we??? We actually have a sacred document and other historical writings on our side. THIS CONCEPT IS VIABLE. Others have layed the ground work that we can take advantage of.

[malkee]

The first thing that comes to mind is the battle in the courts to enforce the “natural born citizen clause.” Seventeen lawsuits at least, and what? Is anything MORE important? How can that be approached, if the Supreme Court, or any court for that matter, won’t even hear arguments? But it’s very easy to point out why something WOULD NOT work. If the ACLU can win victories, so could we. Partial victories, yes, but it can be done.

[datura]

I don’t think the armed revolution idea is dead, sorry. Too high a percentage of our armed forces still believe in their vows - just like you and I did and still do.

I spent all my years in during the cold war fighting the same ideals that the mindless masses voted into office through sheer stupidity. Now they are going to get what they asked for, and when the wheels come off this wagon it will be a huge crash.

The Left’s messiah placed all of his credibility in this BS, and when it pushes the economy over the brink only they will face the blame.

Red vs Blue Zones. Who has the guns? Who has the food?

[AmericanArchConservative]

BTTT

[Gondring]

How about educating our fellow voters and children, to break the indoctrination?

[Gondring]

Red vs Blue Zones. Who has the guns? Who has the food?

Don't forget heart medication.

[A Navy Vet]

Is there any organization already working on the above concept other than the ineffectual Judicial Watch? If so, why haven't they made a difference or at least been interviewed by Fox News and Talk Radio?

I believe this concept will need an entirely new organization and personell. Bob, you have contacts. If you're still active, can you run this past them? We have the historical written documents on our side that could be introduced into any civil litigation.

If nothing else, it would slow the transition to total socialism and possibly stop and/or reverse it. I know it's a long haul, but I believe it to be our last and best hope. The political machine is broken; let's see if the judicial machine is also so broken.

What do we have to lose by making some contacts? Rush? Hannity? Ann Coulter? Laura Ingaham, Glenn Beck, etc.? And of course the conservatives in the what's left of the Republican party?

[GOP Poet]

bookmark

[A Navy Vet]

"How about educating our fellow voters and children, to break the indoctrination?"

With due respect, that is a non-starter. It simply won't happen. The liberals control the education institutions.

[Junior_G]

Support existing organizations and/or create a new organization with massive cash infusions to build bullet-proof LAWSUITS against the onslaught of unConstitutional legislation.

Exactly. It's time for conservatives to form a strategic alliance with the Church of Scientology.

[FR_addict]

I think your idea has merit. Have you heard of ACLJ?

I haven't heard if they have had any successes lately. They do a lot of religious cases, but they are already established. Maybe we need to do some research on their organization.

http://www.aclj.org

I just started a website to gather Action Plans. Please put your ideas there. We have to start being Proactive not reactive.

http://www.ConservativesInActionUSA.com

We are still working on the website design, so we are not advertising the site yet, except mentioning it on FreeRepublic.

We can't keep doing the same things over and over again and expect a different result.

Calling our legislatures isn't going to do any good when the RINOs already made up their minds and kept their phones off the hook. They don't care what we think. Calling to thank the ones that held firm helps the good ones know we are behind them. I want to find out more about the seven Dems who voted against this monstrosity.

[Gondring]

How many times have you volunteered in a public school?
How many newspapers have you started?

I’ve done both...why do you think it would be meaningless if millions of others did, too?

[KTM rider]

sign me up.

our nation is about 50/50 liberal/conservative, but the liberals control some vital institutions that tip the balance ,

they own : the news media, the entertainment industry, the education system, and the judicial branch.

[A Navy Vet]

First, I don't want to see an armed insurrection/rebellion in my Country. That would be devastating. You can cry "Wolverines", but too many of my countrymen and women and children would die. We are no where near that point and I pray we never get there.

Secondly, I don't believe our Armed Forces would start shooting at their fellow citizens, but maybe some would. Who knows? If they did - see above.

Thirdly, I believe my concept is viable. The executive branch and the legislative branch are now one in the same. I say it's worth trying to see if the judicial branch is there, also. Let's ALL file lawsuits against their unConstitutional legislation. If that doesn't work, well, I have my torch to march on the Capitol. But then that would take a couple hundred thousand to make a difference.

So for now, can we try this last attempt?

[A Navy Vet]

"Exactly. It's time for conservatives to form a strategic alliance with the Church of Scientology."

WTF?

[abigailsmybaby]

Mountain States Legal Foundation.

“In 2009, MSLF will have been going to court for 32 years, fighting to compel compliance with the commands of the Constitution and federal law to ensure that America remains a nation of laws, ........”

They are a certified 501(c)(3) organization and run off of donations.

http://www.mountainstateslegal.org

[EQAndyBuzz]

First thing is term limits. WE need to turn term limits into the new litmus test.

Second thing is lawsuits against the ACLU, Sierra Club, Greenpeace and every other leftist organization.

Third thing is to take on the MSM.

However the way to win this is to do what Reagan did. BANKRUPT YOUR ENEMIES!!!! Reagan forced the Soviets to either compete or give up. WE need to do that to our opposition. If we can bankrupt a George Soros, we would be well on our way.

That’s how you win wars.

[Junior_G]

Just kidding. But they are notorious for their relentless use of lawsuits as a means of silencing critics. They know their stuff when it comes to using the law to shut their enemies down.

[A Navy Vet]

I haven't done either. However I have been involved in political street activism and those of us who have been throughout the years have learned that kids were being indoctrinated by liberals. I know this because I have been accosted by them and almost gone to blows on the streets for simply showing my opinion.

You sound like a liberal "edumacator" that has helped turned our youth into spoiled pissy little ignorant whiners that expect everything. Am I going to far? Did I read you wrong?

[cc2k]

A Navy Vet wrote:

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"How about educating our fellow voters and children, to break the indoctrination?"

With due respect, that is a non-starter. It simply won't happen. The liberals control the education institutions.

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With respect, that has to happen. Or any gains we can make will be wiped out.

And I'm skeptical about the courts as a vehicle to move an agenda forward. I know that the libs have used that approach. But that doesn't make it the right way to go. Activist judges legislating from the bench are bad, even when you might agree with their "laws."

The big problem with that approach is you get one shot. When the decision comes down, that's the law you get. And the only input is from the parties to the case at hand. It's not representative. There isn't any real public debate. The results are bad much more often than they are good.

Tax revolt is probably the next logical step. Claim exemption from withholding. Or, if you're worried about the legal ramifications of tax evasion, just avoid taxable activity.

I've suggested "Tax Free Fridays" as a possible response to the Porkulus spending monstrosity that just passed. Take unpaid leave every Friday until it's repealed. That denies the Feds 20% (or more) of their revenue stream from withholding for income taxes and payroll taxes.

Use the time to volunteer at schools as Gondring suggested, or tend a garden (to reduce your expenses to keep things in line with the reduced income). Or even use the time to clean your guns and practice at the range.