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1 posted on 02/17/2009 4:21:46 AM PST by Perdogg
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When you say “fan” do you mean the power supply or the fan that cools the CPU?


2 posted on 02/17/2009 4:23:07 AM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. Now they're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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Sounds simple.....new power supply. One with no dust bunnies !


3 posted on 02/17/2009 4:23:12 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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S3


4 posted on 02/17/2009 4:23:18 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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SpinRite from Gibson Research might be able to recover data from a malfunctioning hard drive, if that is the problem. However, the hard drive itself might be fine. Perhaps the power supply went belly up or the circuit the computer is on tripped.
7 posted on 02/17/2009 4:26:17 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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Looks fine...ditch the "Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64bit "
XP Office, if possible.
8 posted on 02/17/2009 4:27:52 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: Perdogg; hiredhand

Assuming the hard drive itself is good, once you acquire a replacement, if it’s not a laptop and has room for a second hard drive, you should be able to take the old hard drive and hook it up as a “slave”, and then copy anything you want to from it to the “master” that’s the primary in the replacement computer.

Once that’s done, do a “wipe” (do a search on “disk wipe”, here’s one sample: http://www.cezeo.com/products/disk-redactor/ )on the old drive, then “beat the tar” out of it with a large hammer.

Or, you could just leave the “old” drive installed and point the Windows swap file at it, taking some of the load off the primary drive.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 4:28:06 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Perdogg

It sounds like it’s a power issue and not a hard drive issue. 2002, you would probably enjoy a new computer and you can get a really good one for a few hundred dollars now. (Dell is under $300 at Walmart) Geek Squad at Best Buy or a computer repair shop should be able to take your hard drive out (let them so you don’t fry it with static, they have the right flooring for that) and move the information and data to your new computer for not a high charge.


10 posted on 02/17/2009 4:28:24 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: Perdogg

Funny timing?

You can always add the current hard drive as a second hard drive on your new computer. Then read or transfer the information.

Make sure you didn’t pull the power cord loose or something simple like that. Weird things happen. I’ve seen my share.


13 posted on 02/17/2009 4:28:54 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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Speaking generally?

Get a unit like this one ( there are several makers of them ):

http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adapt.php
Universal Drive Adapter

Pull your hard drive, hook up the adapter, and borrow a friend’s computer to find & copy your files.

Or, you could get another PC and connect the old HD as a slave or secondary drive, and poke around for your stuff.

Another idea would be to blow out the case ( to get rid of dust ) and try a replacement power supply.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 4:31:58 AM PST by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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I tend to agree with the previous post that the symptoms reflect a power supply failure. If your PC is not a laptop then it is a relatively simple fix. If your are tool handy, cost should be about $40 for the power supply and an hour of your time.

If you desire to replace your 2002 PC which is somewhat elderly, I would make a deal at the local dealer to transfer the data from the old Hard Drive to the new PC for no or minimal charge.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 4:32:09 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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Most likely a power supply or cabling issue. Check the internal power connection from the power supply to the motherboard, make sure it’s seated properly. Look for a model number on your motherboard and google it.

I had a motherboard that did a similar thing to me, and it turned out that if you unhooked all external connections to it, pulled out all the RAM (except for one piece), then powered up, powered down, replace one item, power up, etc, etc, then it would work fine again.

Weird issues can crop up out of nowhere like that. It happens, unfortunately. And, unlike what some other fools are saying, your OS has nothing to do with it.


17 posted on 02/17/2009 4:33:46 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Perdogg

If the PC won’t power up (a box fault) then open the case, remove the hard-drive and - when you have brought a new computer - plug it in as a secondary or “slave” hard-drive. You should then be able to read the data fine.

If the PC will power up but it fails to enter Windows (or whatever your operating system is) correctly, probably due to corruption on the hard-drive - then I recommend buying “SPINRITE”. It’s not free, but it is not expensive and it is a superb little application which will serve you well through life. Stick the Spinrite application on a floppy or other bootable media, and use that to cure your hard-drive.

Hope this is helpful.


18 posted on 02/17/2009 4:33:47 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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Of course, you could just use your back up files to restore to a new computer....

Assuming that you do back ups.

Most people don't, until they get burned.

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It would be the power supply. It could also be a problem with the motherboard.

If it were the drive that was bad, the machine would still try to start, and you would hear a low grinding type sound as the BIOS tries to communicate with the hard drive.

Can you boot from a CD/DVD drive or 3.5 floppy drive? If so, try putting a bootable disk in and see if the computer boots from the disk. If it won't, then the problem sounds to be the power supply or motherboard.

If that is the case, you (or your technician) can probably reclaim the data on the hard drive to a new computer.

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Computers are relatively cheap. Local tech charges $99 minimum to even open a case. New computers from Tigerdirect.com, for example, are as cheap as $299.

I bought my last system without keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc., to save a few $$$$.

Weigh the cost of repair against the cost of a new one.

25 posted on 02/17/2009 4:40:20 AM PST by TomGuy
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Did you remove the USB drive from the back or the front of the computer?

Yes, there is a difference. The back one is on the motherboard and the front one is connected to the motherboard. It may be a short.


26 posted on 02/17/2009 4:46:29 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Join the computer talk!


31 posted on 02/17/2009 4:56:32 AM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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some pc’s won’t start up if the fan isn’t working. if you have pets in the house, or some hair has gotten caught with the dust on the fan blades they may not be turning. try cleaning it out first.


49 posted on 02/17/2009 5:26:24 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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It sounds like you fried the mother board...and the father board, too.


51 posted on 02/17/2009 5:29:00 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Always pack the heat. Always pack the heat. Always pack the heat.)
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blue screen of death ping


55 posted on 02/17/2009 5:38:34 AM PST by silverleaf ("Men are not angered by mere misfortune but by misfortune conceived as injury" - Screwtape)
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If the PC is dead...and I mean once you've determined that the motherboard is fried or replacing the power supply isn't your cup of tea...remove the hard drive and simply install it as a slave unit in a new PC. Make sure this new PC will accept an IDE drive if your old one is IDE and not SATA, of course.

That's how I usually do it to save data, once it is determined that the hard drive is NOT the part causing the failure.

63 posted on 02/17/2009 6:38:01 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All the oil's in Texas...but all the dipsticks are in Washington, DC.)
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Did you knock the power cord out of the supply?


64 posted on 02/17/2009 6:42:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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