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DOW Loves the Stimulus..Down 258

Posted on 02/17/2009 6:59:48 AM PST by wny

And away we go....


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; bhostimulus; economy

1 posted on 02/17/2009 6:59:48 AM PST by wny
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To: wny

How bout a magic trick....(chuckle)


2 posted on 02/17/2009 7:00:34 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye

Wall Street knows the difference between S-— and Shinola!


3 posted on 02/17/2009 7:02:31 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Badeye
Heh - the headline on Yahoo - "Stocks Slide on Economic Gloom"

If a (R) was in the White House, it'd be "Stocks Plummet..."

4 posted on 02/17/2009 7:02:38 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: wny

Hey look on the bright side, the day is not over yet....**sigh**


5 posted on 02/17/2009 7:03:12 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: wny

Democrat Crash of 2009


6 posted on 02/17/2009 7:03:17 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about Zimbabwe money.)
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To: RabidBartender

If it was a Republican, they’d being showing a ‘side by side’ shot of the market tanking as the Republican President was speaking....oh, wait,...they did that to Bush all the time....

If nothing else, the Dubya era ended any rational debate related to Mainstream Media bias.


7 posted on 02/17/2009 7:04:45 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: wny

The PPT and the rest of the merry band will step in. The Dow at 8K will probably be a standard for a while :(


8 posted on 02/17/2009 7:04:56 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: wny

I predicted 7600 back on Friday.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 7:05:47 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (INGSOC starts 1.20.09)
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To: wny

Just the beginning...


10 posted on 02/17/2009 7:06:13 AM PST by Never on my watch (Save energy - put the enemy's lights out.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

By Summer 5000 dow


11 posted on 02/17/2009 7:06:45 AM PST by scooby321
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To: wny

This is a good thing. The Market has been overinflated for quite some time. Just check out the PE ratios for the S&P.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 7:06:58 AM PST by snarky conservative
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To: Uncle Miltie
Democrat Crash of 2009

Democrash

13 posted on 02/17/2009 7:07:19 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: wny

Today’s reaction is more probably tied to the severe dislocations occurring in Europe, triggered by what went on in Asia over our weekend...which was pretty dramatic. But, not to split hairs.

Markets are going to go where they have to go. They are bigger than any government effort to ringfence them. In its zeal to provide for our common welfare, government will, once again, wring every conceivable means of profitability out of capitalism. In doing so, wasteful, functionless/negative-functioning, and insider-dealing entities will have become the profit centers of the system; but only for a select few. At which point, it will make litle sense to conclude that for-profit companies will be able to generate profits anything like they once did. So, the decimation in the markets is nothing but logical. Indeed, the markets will relentlessly outwit the incompetents running the joint.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 7:09:32 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: wny
The LSM is spinning on 'economic woes' slanted w/ heaps of doom and gloom as to the casue...no mention in the same breath of the 0 Economic Stickit2us Shamebill.

I think the DOW will drop below 7500 today.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 7:12:00 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: wny
Sirius XM has really taken off:

U.S. MOST ACTIVE BY VOLUME

  PRICE %CHANGE VOLUME
SIRIUS XM RADIO 0.1999 90.56 59930084

16 posted on 02/17/2009 7:14:55 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: wny
The Dow vs Gold ratio is now at 8 and falling.


17 posted on 02/17/2009 7:16:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dr. Ursus
Wall Street knows the difference between S-— and Shinola!

This definitely ain't shoe polish!

18 posted on 02/17/2009 7:16:22 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: WakeUpAndVote

“I predicted 7600 back on Friday.”

I predict 6900 will be the bottom when it tanks in June....hey, I can speculate as good as anyone else!


19 posted on 02/17/2009 7:18:17 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: Constitution Day
Democrash™ aught-nine!
20 posted on 02/17/2009 7:19:27 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wny

DOW was down 258.

Now it’s only down 259 (Typical CNBC comment)


21 posted on 02/17/2009 7:19:53 AM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: preacher

250 Excuse me


22 posted on 02/17/2009 7:21:11 AM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Petronski
Zimbama!™
23 posted on 02/17/2009 7:21:41 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: RSmithOpt
Isn't that the truth. When the Dow has risen, it's because of Obama. On days like today, no mention of Obama or his harebrained porkulus bill.
24 posted on 02/17/2009 7:21:46 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Wall Street knows the difference between S-— and Shinola!

Wall Street has a dictionary.


25 posted on 02/17/2009 7:23:42 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The Kenyan Manchild is definitely in over his head.

It’s a victory for the NEA, I suppose. We finally have an electorate stupid enough to elect an idiot.


26 posted on 02/17/2009 7:25:22 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: RSmithOpt

DOW at 7575 now.


27 posted on 02/17/2009 7:27:19 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: preacher

273 and dropping...... Has the One spoken yet? He had an awful lot to say during the campaign. He promised the autoworkers in Detroit jobs... he promised the coal miners in PA and OH jobs.... He ran and got elected on the economy and hs is failing to deliver. That “inherited it” B.S. isn’t going to cut it. The markets have gone south since he was elected.


28 posted on 02/17/2009 7:29:13 AM PST by jersey117
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To: preacher

That means “it’s off its lows of the day!”.


29 posted on 02/17/2009 7:29:51 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: wny
Talk about Quick Change that Obama promised us! "What the hell kind of a clown are you?", "The crying inside kind...I guess" "Exact change or off the bus!"
30 posted on 02/17/2009 7:31:02 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: jersey117
Obama is so stupid he probably believes that "signing" his stimulus bill into law is going to bring the market up again!

He's such a tool.

sw

31 posted on 02/17/2009 7:31:56 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

...Indeed, the markets will relentlessly outwit the incompetents running the joint.

***I hope you are right...we’re retired and although we don’t depend on “the market” for living expenses, it’s nice to have some “just in case $$.”

Meeting with our financial guy this A.M. and I honestly am so floored by this news I can’t even think of anything intelligent to ask him.

We can’t pull out... actually we could but something tells me that what Hussein wants us to do and I won’t give him the satisfaction.

Not quite panicked, yet, but damn close to it. I wish someone would wake me up from this nightmare...


32 posted on 02/17/2009 7:32:27 AM PST by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: jersey117

Too late to bail out now.


33 posted on 02/17/2009 7:32:28 AM PST by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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To: wny

They understand that Obama is tanking the economy intentionally.


34 posted on 02/17/2009 7:34:21 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: mikelets456

“I predict 6900 will be the bottom when it tanks in June....hey, I can speculate as good as anyone else!”

The Dow will be at 5,000 by May Day.


35 posted on 02/17/2009 7:36:10 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (History does repeat itself. This is Ceasar and the Roman Senate.)
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To: AGreatPer
"Too late to bail out now."

I don't honestly know about that. Is the cup half full or half empty?

sw

36 posted on 02/17/2009 7:36:43 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: Petronski

Well said, though I don’t think anyone could extract us from what we’ll have to go through here economically. But I’ll remain in full blame mode as far as the elitist view of the left that the tyrrannical and Marxist idiocies they propose are any kind of solution for anyone other than themselves and their power and revenge-hungry minions.


37 posted on 02/17/2009 7:40:36 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: wny

I hate to say it, but not even the Democrats hold that much sway over the stock market. Mainly People just like to panic and run in herds over a cliff.. the Sheeple( who are quite possibly mainly Democrats) who invest in the stock market. Good ridance to them. Be glad when they all jump, so the stock market will reflect the value of the stock in the companies they represent, and American businesses can get back to business.

If the World markets are depressed, there is no where I had rather be than in the United States Economic Market.

I still have faith in American companies and their productivity, and their ability to produce a product that will generate a dividend to their stock holders.


38 posted on 02/17/2009 7:43:06 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Obama Happens! Not my Fault!)
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To: wny

bttt


39 posted on 02/17/2009 7:58:00 AM PST by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: wny

ROFLMAO!

Dow down 252

Gold up 26 to $968.

Oh yeah, this “Stimulus” is going to fix what ails us.

The markets do in fact know the difference between s—t and shinola!!!!!!


40 posted on 02/17/2009 8:02:40 AM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: wny

I have the radio on, and the FOX news guys is practically in tears with excitement—”The wheels are up and Air Force One is in the sky, as President Barack Obama is on his way to sign the....” blah blah blah.

Good God, the worship for this guy is embarassing.


41 posted on 02/17/2009 8:03:24 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life Capitalist American Atheist and Free-Speech Junkie)
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To: Petronski

I Hope that when this all shakes out, I still have some Change in my pocket.


42 posted on 02/17/2009 8:21:19 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: wny
The whole reason for passing this through congress last Friday is so they can get that Presidents Day slow trade buffer to minimize the impact. They knew this would tank the DOW. It could be much much worse than what we are seeing this morning.

But the liberals in my office cube are still blaming Bush. I had to put my iPod earphones on just to shut them out.

43 posted on 02/17/2009 8:24:22 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Constitution Day

Out at the Wal*Mart, on the bottom shelf in the grains aisle, they have a ten pound sack of rice for about four bucks.

Do yourself a favor next time you’re there. Grab a couple.


44 posted on 02/17/2009 8:29:58 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wny

i had called 6000 as the target by 0bama and crew back in september.

at 6000, they’d be able to push us closer to the edge.. keeping people in need of the social program / government assistance

thank goodness for change. in 2007, the markets were at 14,000. now with change... they are going below 7,000.

excellent!

we need a road construction sign with the tanking stock market in the background and ‘dems at work’ in the foreground


45 posted on 02/17/2009 8:31:07 AM PST by sten
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To: wny
Anyone know what the DOW was on:

Bush Mid-Term Inauguration Day 2004:

Election Day 2008

Obama’s Inauguration Day:

This would be interesting information to use as we go through the next four years of revisionist history.

46 posted on 02/17/2009 8:35:11 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Petronski

Good advice.
I’ve actually bought a couple at Sam’s Club a while back...after I read someone here at FR say they had done so.

My dad and I have plans to plant an even bigger garden this year, too.


47 posted on 02/17/2009 8:37:53 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day; cyborg

This is seed catalog season, right now.

Cyborg and I are planting victory gardens this summer. Seed potatoes, massive beds of onions and garlic, early/often tomatoes for canning, zucchinis and squash for the freezer (soups), etc. We are tilling under big patches of side lawn to do it.

Nothing exotic, purely staples.


48 posted on 02/17/2009 8:41:30 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: wny

In 15 minutes 0bama will have been in office just 4 weeks.

Dow on 11/4/08: 9625
Dow on 2/17/09: 7589 -2036 (-21%)


49 posted on 02/17/2009 8:49:15 AM PST by vamoose
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To: wny
I've posted this before, but:

1. This market crash is Bush's Fault. It's axiomatic because anything bad that happens to anybody anywhere from now until the end of time is Bush's Fault. Just ask any member of the media if you need confirmation. President Nappy O'Buckwheat is blameless, now and forever.

2. "People", sheep or otherwise, are not what is causing the markets to tank. Small investors, even as a group, have only a marginal impact on the stock market. The moneychangers and market manipulators (who control our economy & media and also pull the puppet strings on our President and his party) who run the big banks & brokerages are the ones who can (and do) send the market down with a flick of their collective fingers.

3. Why? As one poster already mentioned, to impoverish more citizens and make them more dependent on our new National Socialist Welfare State Government - i.e., the Democrats. The manipulators themselves don't lose a dime when the market tanks; in fact, they do quite well (ever hear of "short selling"?) - THEY aren't going to be 'impoverished' anytime soon.

But what they OUGHT to be doing is serving as fertilizer in some cemetery, and perhaps once enough (formerly) hard-working, taxpaying patriotic Americans find themselves in severely hard times, that's exactly where the manipulators will wind up. Hopefully.

50 posted on 02/17/2009 9:03:56 AM PST by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipulate it START bleeding)
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